Each Yom Kippur, As neilah draws near, the kehilla is made up of those both tired and exhilarated, hopeful and hungry.
A rav’s words leading into this moment – this days’ crescendo – will often be swift, to the point. His goal is to give but an extra assist, a sprinkle of ruach, and a boost of energy so we can make it to the finish line feeling that we made the most out of the now-waning Day.
For those rabbanim with an audience of mixed backgrounds, this task becomes more challenging. Perhaps its a story, a lesson, or a quick-yet-powerful vort.
Rav Yisroel Salanter once said that it is worth the hours of the rav’s time preparing short devar Torah…even if the only result will be that just this next teffila will be said with more kavana…even if only one member davens just this one teffila better…even if that one member is the rav himself!
Indeed, as I share with younger rabbanim: the person you must be seeking to enthuse is yourself so taht your words will be devarim hayotzim min halev.
Below are a sampling of just a few most recent pre-neilah thoughts; perhaps they will inspire the reader as much as they dis this writer.
Two Minutes
My first year as a rav, I was invited to speak at a 9/11 memorial. This was just a few years from that horrific day, and they excepted a crowd of about ten-thousand. I had an event prior, and by the time I arrived they needed a golfcart to assist me through a back alley and away from the crowd so I could quickly get to the dais. When I finally arrived to my seat, I noted the many leaders and politicians seated to my right and left, clearly indicating the many speaches to come or already missed. The organizer ran up to me, looked at his chart, and whisprered: “Ok, rabbi. You’re speaking…say, two minutes. Is that ok?”.
I panicked. “In ‘Two minutes’!I haven’t yet had the chance to gather my thoughts. Perhaps someone who arrived earlier can go before me?” I requested.
“You misunderstood,” he explained, “you are on in a half an hour. I only meant that you have two minutes allotted for you speech.”
When I did get up to speak, I shared this exchange with the audience. “What could I possibly say or accomplish in two minutes? How can one encapsulate the pain and suffering that this day wrought on individuals, families and the world in a mere one-hundred-and twenty seconds?!
“However, if 9/11 has imparted to us but one message, it should be just that:, In ‘Two Minutes’ we can witness the world we knew crumble before us, changed forever.‘Two Minutes’ was all it took to observe the worst of humanity, and in those same ‘Two Minutes’ we saw humanity at its best -such as the last ‘Two Minute’ heroics of Flight 93, or in witnessing emergency service men and women choosing to rush toward danger whilst all others ran from it.
“All it takes is ‘Two Minutes’.
Neilah, is our ‘Two Minutes’, our kinyan olam habah b’shah achas, acquisition of the World to Come in one moment. What can be accomplished now, in these sacred, waning moments of rachamim shall not be lost in hunger nor abandoned in weakness. Chizku V’imtzu!
II. When To Scream
The Strikover rebbe shared the following story with Rav Shach, who would later often recount it to his students (source: Rav Schach on Chumash, p. 264-265).
A karliner chossid approached his rebbe and asked, “I will be in Vienna on business and will be davening with the Chorktover rebbe. Their minhag is to shout when they daven. Since I will be with them, should I daven in that same way?”
(The halachos of ‘makom shenohagu’-to not veer from local custom-is strict, and must be at least outwardly observed, unless, of course, it conflicts with more serious matters)
The Karlnier rebbe responded sharply: “This is no way to daven to the King of all kings! One should only have awe and speak with gentility when approaching Hashem! Such is our minhag, and so you should act even when among chorktoverchasidim.
That Shabbos in Vienna, he arrived to the Chorktovor shulprepared to followhis rebbe’s direction, and althoughtheir davening was beautiful, this chossid still maintained his custom and softer method of davening. But then came the striking teffila of nishmas. Its lofty meaning fused with the loud voices surrounding him pierced his soul. Without thinking he began to cry-out along with them.
He was shocked at himself for disobeying his rebbe, and upon his return begged him forgiveness.
“Why are you apologizing? Don’t chazal share (see, e.g. Devarim Rabba, V’eschanan) that ‘tze’aka-crying out’ is one of the ten forms of teffila!”
The chossid was confused by these mixed messages. “But the rebbe told me when I initially approached him not to daven in such a way…”
The rebbe smiled and explained: “When a yid approaches me in the middle of the week sharing his ‘plan’ to cry to Hashem on Shabbos, I then share that this is not the most appropriate way to daven. However, it is when one is so cut-up in emotion, tefilah, ruach, and dveykus -when the damn of one’s heart naturally breaks on its own accord -when one can’t help but cry –that is when it is worthy!”
The nimshal to neilah is clear.
III. Leaps and Bounds
On the morning of July 16, 1969, three astronauts sat atop Saturn V at Launch Complex 39A at the Kennedy Space Center, where 7.5 million pounds of thrust would soon propel them ‘upward’. Four days later, at 10:56 p.m. EDT, Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon and says what may be the famous quote ever spoken in human history:
“That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”
While a well-known quote, it is also inaccurate!
The audio had cut out, and what he actually said became slightly altered:
“That’s one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind.”
He was not talking about all of humanity his statement. Rather, he was declaring to the world that an action of but one person can influence all of society.
(Many sefarim and Torah articles were published after the moon landing, discussing its many halachic, hashkafic, and kabbalastic ramifications. The interested reader should see, specifically, Rav Manecham Kasher’s ‘Adam al HaYareiach’)
Most of us will not become astronauts, not in the physical sense at least. Yetour sefarim so often talk about how those who struggle-and-nevertheless succeed in our present dor are as holy as was Avraham. We can pierce the heavens in one step.
And not just for that individual.
Each step, even one, and even if small, and even if only by one person, is a giant leap for Klal Yisroel.
Chazal share the mashal of the capsizing boat. The captain searches and finally discovers the source of the breach, coming from a passenger drilling a hole in his room. “What are you doing! You will sink us all!” the captain yells.
Perplexed, the guest responds, “What are you talking about? I paid for this room! What’s it your business what I do therein?”
Every step that each individual takes effects all of us. Let’s us make those steps, however small, toward sheleimus.
IV. Space and Time
The Chofetz Chaim once shared how life is akin to a post card.
He explained –and anyone who is have written a post card will relate –that when one begins to write on the back he opens with BIG LETTERS. “Hi! HOW ARE YOU! PARIS IS GREAT…” But as they go on, they realize they have more and more to say.
The letters therefore get smaller and smaller, until by the end one can hardly make-out the words, they are so tiny.
Such is life, explained the Chofetz Chaim. We often spend our youth thinking that we have all the time in the world. We may waste whole days, blocks of weeks, and even entire seasons of our lives – hitting the proverbial ‘snooze button’ over and over again. But then, in time, we will begin to feel the full weight of the sands of time lost, as well as the steady rush of its still-falling grains. We anxiously react by playing catchup, fitting in as much as we can in the short time left.
Perhaps the same concept is fitting for this time of year as well. We all know we have to improve our ways-to Gd, to people, to family. We push it off, getting to it ‘later’. Before we know it, elul rolls around and we realize how much time had been wasted how little time we have left to make up out lost learning, lost relationships. So, we begin to repent, change and plead to Hashem.
Time marches on, getting shorter and shorter still, and we still have so much to improve- after all, how much can we change in a month, or the week of aseres yimei teshuva?
Neila, then, is the last line we have left our post cards.
We have one line left, one hour, lets make the best of it!
V. Sometimes. Maybe.
One of the most published talmideichachamim today is Rav Zilberstein. A gaon, he is also most original with his sources and ideas. His talmidim have put together his shiurim in any number of sefarim.
A few years ago ago I was in Monsey for Shabbos when I decided after the morning seudah to go to an early mincha in someone’s home. On their table was Artscroll’s ‘Aleinu L’Shabeach’, a translated set of Rav Zilberstein’s ideas, arranged on each parsha. I opened to a random page and read the following short story:
When Rav Zilberstin was a little boy, he and all of his friends would marvel at all the tzadikim in Yerushalim (imagine growing up there, then!).
However, there was one tzadik in particular that he and his friends were particularly obsessed with: The great Rav Aryeh Levin, known as the tzadik of Yerushalim.
One day, he and his friends ran over to Rav Levin and bravely asked him. “Are you from the lamed vav tzadikim” (while the idea of thirty-six tzadikim in each generation is from chazal –the notion they are or must be hidden doesn’t not have a source known to me).
Most would assume that a tzadik like Rav Levin would shudder at just the mere suggestion of these children.
Instead, Rav Levin stopped in his tracks, looked at the children, closed his eyes, and thought for a long moment.
They waited with anticipation, until he looked up and replied to these youngsters:
“Maybe”.
Then he paused, thought some more and said:
“Sometimes”.
I was struck by this story.
‘Maybe. Sometimes’
This mix of modesty and honesty, of motivation and sincerity, is indeed what made him a tzadik, and the ingredients for which we must all strive.
He recognized that maybe, just maybe, he too was meant to be great! More, he knew that this does not mean had never fallen down, or will again.
For us to become tzadikim, to chap the power of neilah, we too need these two elements, of ‘Maybe. Sometimes’.
We CAN do it, and, that mistakes/slips do not negate that.
When I learn with bar mitzvah boys I always stress the importance of teffila. “Never miss the three teffilos a day”.
Always adding: “However, and more importantly, if you do miss a teffila, or even more than one, don’t let the yetzterhara tell you to throw it all away. Get back on track again, pick yourself off the ground.
We slip, we fall – sometimes.
But we get back up, because we are all meant to be great – maybe.
Maybe I can change.
Sometimes I will slip –but that does not change how special we can still become.
Austrian physicist Wolfgang Pauli, one of the pioneers of Quantum Physics, was famous for his lack of patience for any bad ideas.
Some students once approached Pauli with a paper written by a young physicist that was so awful that they was curious how the abrasive Pauli would respond.
Pauli read it and then looked up and said in his native German: “Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig; es ist nicht einmal falsch!“.
“That is not only not right; it is not even wrong”
That is not even wrong! Amazing!
When we think negatively about ourselves, when we consider we are not meant to be a gadol, even if just sometimes, or we consider ourselves unworthy of improving in awesome ways -we are so off the mark that we are not even wrong!
I will bl”n share some other pre-Neila drashos in a part 2, iy”H.
Its 19th century invention & the great halachic debates that still endure through today
Versions Initially Published in Ami Magazine (in three parts), 2012, 2013, 2018; and later in the Jewish Press, 2024
Introduction:
What type of matzo did you eat by the seder?
Was it handmade?
Machine-made?
Square?
Round?
What do you plan on using the rest of Pesach?
When I was growing up, my family would bake our own hand matzos at the Shatzer matzo bakery in Kensington, NY. Because of this, the sight of machine matzos would seem foreign to my young eyes.
If this was true about little me, now go back 150 years –when machine-matzos were first introduced – and imagine how alien they appeared to the Jews living in that era!
Note further how this introduction of machine-matzos came at a precarious time, both socially and religiously. The aftereffects of the Industrial Revolution were still being felt all over the world and, for the Jews, there was another revolution brewing: the Haskala and, to a greater extent, ‘Reformation’
There was ample reason for many to become suspicious of most innovation. The winds of change made it seem apt for most Jews of that time to secure themselves with, and warm themselves in, the traditions of our past, even those with no clear basis in halacha.
Summing up the ethos of the time succinctly, the Chasam Sofer famously coined the well-known pun, “Chodash assur min haTorah” – innovation [a play on the prohibition of ‘chadash’] is biblically forbidden.
But what were the limits of innovation? Was any societal or technological innovation at the time to be shunned? As Rav Eliezer Halevi Hurwitz rhetorically pondered (Bitul Moda’ah): “Should we, too, ban the new innovation for printing sefarim (i.e. the Gutenberg press)?!”
On the other hand, by then we already witnessed the fact that small steps and even minor innovations were all that were needed to give birth to movements that led away from Torah. Reform, at first, desired certain changes, some of which seemed relatively not too controversial, yet the gedolim smelled danger as well as the certain encroachment on more serious halachah to come.
With this backdrop in mind, let us discover the story behind machine matzos and the resulting controversy.
I. The Birth and the Demand
(Most of the facts stated below without a given source are taken from the sefer Bitul Moda’ah by Rav Yosef Shaul Nathanson z’l, known as the Shoel U’Meishiv)
Although the heated controversy was 20 years away, this story really begins in Ribeauvillé, France in 1838 when the first matzo baking machine was invented by a Frenchman named Isaac Singer and approved by his local rabbis as well as rabbanim in Furth, then a major yeshiva center. By 1845 the new invention was in use in Germany (Frankfurt). Seven years later, in 1852, there was a machine matzo factory in Poland, in the city of Poznan (Posen). This is an important place and time, for the famed Rav Shlomo Eiger (son of Rav Akiva Eiger) was the rav in Posen until his death that same year. The Shoel U’Meishiv asserts that Rav Eiger was alive at the time and had authorized its kashrus for baking matzos.
By 1857 many of the major Jewish cities in Europe had adapted to machine-matzos. From London to Breslov to Pressberg (home of the Ksav Sofer) this innovation began to spread like wildfire. The main reason for the contagion is easy today to recognize: cost. The average hand matzo factory demanded twice the workers as a machine matzo facility would. The owners of these hand matzo bakeries explained to the Ksav Sofer that after recouping the money from their initial
investment in this new “machine”, the savings would be enormous, and the price of matzo would go down significantly. This would allow not only for cheaper matzos for the hamon am (average person) but would also help bring dignity to those who, up till now, had to rely upon kimcha d’pischa (moas chitim) in order to feed their families for Pesach; should he allow machine-matzos, they argued, then even the very poor would afford matzos! Beyond the economic. There was –at least in Pressberg (see shu”t Ksav Sofer for further details) – a shortage of frum laborers, which in turn resulted in the hiring of non-Jewish workers. If this was not cause enough for concern, there were reports by the Krakow beis din that on occasion some workers were so tired that they only pantomimed the act of working the dough. But it gets even worse, as the working-hours at these bakeries were so exhausting that the Krakow beis din reported that there had been occasions where workers were caught sneaking bread sandwiches and the like into their mouths as they worked on the matzos!
As those familiar with geography can see from the above, this new innovation was spreading in an eastern direction. On this journey, in the years 1857 and 1858 it moved from Krakow 350 km east and entered Galicia, and the town of Lvov (Lemberg). It arrived with the haskamah from none other than Rav Yaakov Ettlinger – the Aruch L’ner- one of the leading lamdanim and rabbanim of his age.
This is when the main story begins.
II.Lvov & Krakow: The Birth of a Machlokes
The town of Lvov was lead for many years by Rav Ettinger (not to be confused with Rav Ettlinger, the Aruch L’ner). In that town lived a learnt a young man by the name of Yosef Shaul Nathanson. Together with the rav’s son, Mordechai Zev Ettinger, they studied the entirety of the yam shel talmud. They both went on to receive semicha, all the while learning with each other. They even published important sefarim together, including the oft-quoted Magen Gibburim (my colleague Rav Yirmiyah Milevsky pointed out that the Mishnah Berura quotes this sefer over 200 times!).
Rabbi Nathanson was so prodigious that he went on to marry the rav’s daughter, and when the rav passed away, his son, R’ Mordechai Zev, did not get the position; it went instead to Rabbi Nathanson, the rav’s son-in-law. Soon, Rav Nathanson had become one of the poskei hador. A prolific author, he is most known for his shu”t Shoel U’Meishiv. We will refer to him by that name for the remainder of this story.
This background will become important later in our story, but for now, notice that the year this new machine arrived in Lvov was the Shoel U’Meishiv’s first year into his tenure – 1857.
So back to the story…
Eruption
The machine arrived in Lvov in 1857. At first they tried to test the machine, but it was too cold. On the second try it worked. In addition to the many advantages to machine-matzos in the eyes of some – and listed above – some claimed that there was another advantage. There was another rav in Lvov by the name of Rabbi Simon Aryeh Schwabacher. Coming from Germany that same year and already used to machine-matzos he argued to the Shoel U’Meishiv that hand-matzos are dirty, as the workers do not wash their hands; therefore such matzos are ‘muktza machmas mius (forbidden to touch due to disgust)”!
We should point out that at this point in his life this Rabbi Schwabacher may have been reform, and he was likely a maskil, and indeed the Shoel U’Meishiv had to explain why he mentioned the points of this rabbi in his own defense of his psak.
(Rabbi Shwabacher left Lvov just three years after his arrival, in 1860, and assumed a rabbinic position in Odessa, Russia [now Ukraine] after once giving a Chanukah speech there in 1859 where he enthralled the audience. He died in Odessa 28 years later. Even during his tenure there, the progressives and conservatives, the frum and the reform were confused regarding whose side he most stood most for, although it
seems hard to argue that he was a reformer in the classic sense. He also corresponded with the Netziv and other great rabbanim. See ‘The Jews of Odessa: 1794-1881’, Steven Zipperstein, Stanford University Press)
In any event, for reasons known and unknown, the Shoel U’Meishiv approved the new adaption to machine-matzos.
That same year in Krakow their beis din also ruled to allow machine- made matzos.
Now is when things begin to get interesting.
There was a man in Krakow by the name of R. Chaim Dembitzer who was not at all happy about this new development of machine-matzos. While questions would soon surface whether he was really a rav –or a dayan, as he referred to himself – that reality is of no real consequence for he set out to gather letters from the great rabbanim of the time showing that the leaders of the Torah veldt forbade such matzo. Regardless of Dembitzer’s standing or goals, the facts remain that he did receive many responses from some of the great poskim of the time prohibiting machine-matzo.
In fact, R. Dembitzer published a book in Breslov in 1859 titled ‘Moda’ah L’Beis Yisreol’ (‘A Warning to the Jewish People’) where he records all of the responses he received.
Who were some of the gedolim who responded banning machine matzo? None other than the Gerrer rebbe (Chidushei HaRim), the Sanzer rebbe (Divrei Chaim), as well as one of the leading halachic authorities of the time, Rav Shlomo Kluger, the great rav of Brody.
There was also another rav who wrote a letter prohibiting machine matzo. In fact, this letter came from a posek living in the town of Lvov –where the Shoel U’Meishiv’s original allowance came from!
Who was this man? None other than Rav Mordechai Zev Ettinger, the Shoel U’Meishiv’s old chavrusa and brother-in-law!
While we do not know what went on in the Shoel U’Meishiv’s personal life, we could only imagine how uncomfortable his time in Lvov was becoming. There is strong evidence that a few years later (1862) he sought to leave Lvov, and accepted the position of rav in the town of Brisk – it was even made public. For reasons that are still unclear he never did take that position choosing instead to stay on in Lvov.
III. ‘Moda’a L’Beis Yisroel’ The First Pamphlet:
What was the reasoning of these great men who disagreed with the Shoel U’Meishiv and prohibited machine matzo?
The arguments found in that pamphlet, written by Rav Kluger and others, ran the gamut from the intriguing to the very convincing. For instance, one of the fears (incidentally indicating that the old machine-matzos were once circular in shape and not square as they are today) was due to the following protocol: after the machine shaped the matzo into a square-shape, a worker would round it off so that it would be circular, taking the excess dough back and adding it to the other dough so it could be used in the next batch of matzos.
The fear was that in the meantime, the extra dough would have time to turn into chamtez! Indeed, it is for this reason that machine matzos are all square today (so as to avoid cutting off extra dough), for even those who allowed machine-matzos accepted this argument.
However some now argued that the custom among klal yisroel for millennia was to have round matzo, and to change the shape to square was a problem onto itself!
Some went even further and challenged creating such an innovation in making matzos simply because it differed so radically from how we had been making matzos for thousands of years. Some went so far as asserting that this innovation came from German Jews who are known to appreciate innovation more so than their Galiztianer brethren.
That was not to be taken as a compliment to German Jews!
Some important rabbanim even suggested that the introduction of this machine was a surreptitious way to bring innovation among the charedim, for the reformers to get their foot in the door, as it were.
In addition, they pointed to serious questions relating to kavana (intent). The Shulchan Aruch (siman 460) rules that matzos have to be made by an adult, and that matzos for the seder must have specific intent. The Mishnah Berurah, for instance, rules (ad loc. # 3) that even to watch over a non-Jew would not help in this regard. This being the case, how could a machine have kavana?!
There were also concerns regarding the ability to clean the machine from all the dough that would become stuck in crevices, as well as other similar concerns.
Furthermore, as the matzos moved toward the oven there was a fear that the heat escaping would speed-up the chimutz process before the matzos are placed inside the oven.
A separate issue raised was the concern for all of the people who would lose their jobs making hand-matzos. One of the reasons, points out Rav Kluger, that the gemara gives for postponing the reading of the Megilla when Purim falls out on Shabbos is the concern that the poor people will not receive their matanos l’evyonim.
So we see, he argued, that we must be mindful of the poor when making community policy, and the fact that many would lose their parnassa (sustenance) with the advent of machine matzo factories is reason enough to ban them.
IV. The Shoel U’Meishiv Responds: The Second Pamphlet
That same year (1859), in response to ‘Moda’a L’Beis Yisroel’, the Shoel U’Meishiv put out his own pamphlet, titled ‘Bitul Moda’ah’ (‘Nullifying the Warning’).
In it he responded to all the arguments against machine-matzos – pointing out that most of the gedolim who were recorded in the previous pamphlet never even saw these machines, rather they relied on testimony, and often this testimony concerned antiquated machines that didn’t represent the hiddurim made to them since their inception. As the Aruch L’ner, in reference to this debate, put it, “seeing is better than hearing”.
The Shoel U’Meishiv, together with the Krakow beis din, also demonstrated that R. Dembitzer might not have been who he claimed he was.
In fact, the Shoel U’Meishiv unflatteringly refers to him as ‘sheker haCheyN’ (false is grace), a play on the verse in mishlei and R. Dembitzer’s name, Chaim Nossan.
He also compiled letters from across Europe seeking support for his position. They included: the Ksav Sofer (see his teshuvos, Orach Chaim, hosofos 12), the Aruch L’ner, and the rav of Danzig, Rav Yisroel Lipshutz – the baal Tiferes Yisroel. The latter not only supported machine-matzos but wrote that it was he who requested such a machine be brought to Danzig, and that when he saw it he proclaimed the beracha ‘m’chadesh chadashim- bless be He who creates new things’!
As to the issue of the workers who would lose jobs, the Shoel U’Meishiv argued that there were other ways to help those individuals, and that this innovation would help far more people.
As for the issue of intent, he argued in strong words that the machine does not work on its own (comparing it to rolling pins, which, of course, don’t work on their own either) and since a Jewish adult is operating it there is no issue.
(Today these machines are far more advanced, see section below – Manischewitz, for instance, owns dozens of patents –and in addition they are not mechanical in nature but rather electrical, leading to issues beyond the scope of this brief monograph)
Regarding the issue of innovation, the Shoel U’Meishiv rhetorically asked whether it would also then be forbidden to ride a train.
The Aruch L’Ner also wrote in defense of innovation, as well as a vindication of German Jewry who are “upright” while also accepting “the innovations of men of science…for the purpose of observing mitzvos”.
Regarding the issue of requiring circular matzos, the Shoel U’Meishiv and others dismiss this out of hand. In fact some even suggest (based on beitza 22b, menachos 57a) that since many of the laws of matzo are learned from the lechem hapanim, which were square, square matzos are preferred!
IV. ‘The Shape’ Of Matzos –A Brief Aside
1) The Ibn Ezra (vayikra 2:4) and other rishonim debate the shape of the matzah used for some Korbanei Mincha; some say they were circular, while others say, square. I would posit that this would be a stronger comparison to our matzah than the Lechem HaPanim –as these minchas were non-chometzmatzos . Yet, as we see, even their shape remains an unsettled debate. (See Shaarei Aaron ad loc.)
2)U’Maivy Geulah L’Olam: On Parsha Bo 5786 (2026), we were vacationing in Miami. I brought the always fantastic Otzar Plios HaTorah which, sadly, I otherwise haven’t the time to peruse. To my sheer delight, on page 294, he offers a short treatment on why matzos have been round for centuries. We will bring down, in order, what he shares:
A) The term ‘Ugos‘ used my the initial matzah command (“…ugos matzos…”, shemos 12:39) is derived from the fact that these loaves were ‘Ugulos-Round’ (shu”t Yehuda Ya’aleh 1:157). This etymology is based on a Rashi to taanis (23a), menachos (94b), and moed kattan (4b). This same idea is found in the Ran (end of 3rd perek of taanis regarding Choni Ha’magel; HaRav Bartunera (taanis 3:8) and Tosfos Yom Tov (ad loc.). See also Rashi, chullin 41a in the mishneh.
A-1) After proving from this term its shape, Rav Asad explaining why this was to be its shape: Since matzah is to representlechem oni (the poor mans’ bread – devarim 16:3), roundness is symbolic of poverty, as alluded to by chazal (shabbos 151b) who describe poverty as a circle, or ball, that returns and retruns to this world/family (based on devarim 15:1).
B) Another purpose behind the round shape, offers Rav Asad, is based on a midresh (Eicha Rabbah, pesichta #18) and a halacha (Shulchan Aruch, oh”ch 428:3), the first night of Pesach will fall on the same day of the week of that year’s Tisha B’Av. This is the source for the minhag brought in the Rema (ad loc.) to eat an egg by the Seder’s meal. Why an egg? When Avraham died, and Yaakov made – and then fed Eisav – ‘adashim‘, Rashi shares (bereishis 25:30) how eggs and certain legumes are symbolic of mourning – as they are round, without a ‘mouth’ (perhaps alluding to our muted response to tragedy), and, because they are circular. This shape alludes to death’s circular/repeated/always returning nature (ad bias goel) [this is similar to how chazal explained ‘aniyos-poverty’ above]. More, according to many, Avraham’s death and Yaakov’s meal in response was on erev Pesach. Since this is Avraham’s yartzeit, it becomes an additional intent when eating an egg by the seder (Pri Megadim 476, msh”z 3). For these reasons do we also round the seder’s matzah: to remind us of both our mournful state in galus, and, to commemorate a nation still in mourning since the death of its founder, Avraham.
C) The Mahari Asad further suggests a reason for our round matzos [already proved from his understanding of ‘Ugos’] by reminding us how the mitzrim would bake their bread either square-shaped or triangle-shaped, to allude to the duality in their godly beliefs R”l (I am unsure of his source for this -although it does give new insight into Hamantashen!). To counter this,bnei yisroel made their bread in Egypt circular -one entity, without a beginning or end, best representing the yichud (oneness) of Hashem!
C) The HaDarash V’Ha’Iyun, by Rav Aahron Levin, hy”d!, proves from the same Ibn Ezra we brought above that our matzos are to be round.
D)In another of his sefarim (shu”t Avnei Cheifetz 34:4), Rav Levin offers an additional reason for round matzos: ‘Roundness’ is beloved by Hashem, which is why He fashioned the sun, earth, moon, inter alia in that shape. To celebrate this, we are to make our matzos round.
The Ksav Sofer also dismissed the square matzo concern by stating, “In the merit of the four-cornered matzos, may Hashem redeem us from the four corners of the earth”!
The Shoel U’Meishiv also expressed disappointment in the perceived motive behind his brother-in-law’s attack against his psak. However, from what I have seen, his brother-in-law’s letter was first written in 1856, several months before Lvov welcomed their new machine.
While the Shoel U’Meishiv wanted to avoid this issue turning into a Chasidim vs. Misnagdim debate, in many ways that is precisely what happened, largely due to the letters from the Sanzer and Gerrer rebbes. To this day almost no chasideshe branch uses machine-made matzo. However, whereas during the early days of this machlokes many did write of their concern that machine-matzo may contain real chometz, this is no longer a concern today even among chasidim (Nitei Gavriel in the name of the Klausenberger rebbe. See also shu”t Mishne Halachos 1:114).
Sadly the Jewish journalists of the 19th century got wind of this debate and began to pick sides as well as go beyond their breadth of ken by placing themselves between the heads of giants. Most notably was the Jewish newspaper ‘Hamagid’ –a largely haskalah leaning paper – who published derogatory articles about those who wanted to prohibit machine-matzos.
Due to their clear bias it is hard to know if some of the facts they cite are true. For instance, on March 9, 1859 Hamagid reported that the Shoel U’Meishiv was taken to court in Lvov where he had to prove that his pamphlet was not filled with lies, as was told to the censor by the advocates of the first pamphlet against machine-matzos. The Shoel U’Meishiv was able to convince the judge that nothing wrong or untrue was to be found in his book, reported Hamagid. A fantastic account…if proven true. Perhaps I am being too cynical.
There was also another individual who took to writing into various journals and newspapers in support of machine-matzos whilst attacking –in very strong words- Rav Shlomo Kluger. This fellow, R. Chaim Kara, would later write to the Gerrer rebbe explaining that at the time he had no idea who Rav Shlomo Kluger was (!) and had he known he would have spoken with more respect.
As we can see from all the above, the new innovation of machine- matzos led to a heated machlokes that shook the Torah world of its time.
So what do we take from all of this? On the one hand neither the Mishnah Berura nor the Aruch HaShulchan ever even mentioned machine matzo, on the other hand great poskim like Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach ate only machine-made matzo.
Well, the truth is we only told the first half of this story. Machine matzo continued to spread throughout the second half of the 19th century and into the 20th.
This innovation travelled south to Eretz Yisroel, and west to America, changing in design and concern with each passing decade.
That is a story unto itself, and just as fascinating.
Alas, it will have to wait till next year (see next section), when iy’H I will write a sequel to this article, and when Ami will hopefully be headquartered in Yerushalim Habenuyah, where we can all witness as Rav Shlmo Kluger and the holy rebbes of Europe sit together with the Shoel U’Meishiv and the Ksav Sofer as they argue their respective cases in front of Moshe rabbeinu, Rebbe Akiva, and Rav Yehudah HaNasi.
V. Where ‘Time Magazine’ Got it Wrong
Before we describe what happened next, let me share a recent discovery that highlights the sad reality of the initial machlokos and what was left in its wake.
In April of 2009 Time Magazine published a brief history of the ‘machine matzo debate’. They write:
“In 1959, a well-known Ukrainian rabbi named Solomon Kluger published an angry manifesto against machine-made matzo, while his brother-in-law, Rabbi Joseph Saul Nathenson, published a defense.”
In just this one sentence we find three major inaccuracies. (a) Their date is off by a hundred years (b) although quoted in it, Rav Kluger was not the one who published this sefer (c) they mistook Rav Kluger and Rav Nathenson as brother-in-laws!
How could they err so?
Perhaps this was due to the fact that there was a brother-in-law element to the story. In his younger days Rav Nathenson would study with his brother-in-law Rav Mordechai Zev Ettingah (not Rav Kluger!). The
two soon became a world-renown Torah-force to be reckoned with. They even published very popular sefarim together, including the important work ‘Magen Gibburim’, one of the most oft quoted sefarim in the Mishnah Berrura.
It was therefore a shock to many to discover that in ‘Moda’ah L’Beis Yisroel’ one of the rabbis who had written strongly against machine matzos and the ruling of Rav Nathenson was none other than Rav Ettingah!
Time Magazine was right that a brother-in-law was involved, they just got the wrong name.
But that is not even the central discovery I want to share; that was just its introduction.
A few moths ago I was looking something up in one of Rav Nathenson’s works (‘Divrei Shaul’, Bereishis/Shmos, vol. 2) when I noticed that near the end of the sefer a relative of his offers a brief biography of its author. He mentions that the family once wrote to Rav Nathenson asking if the rumors were true – that he and his brother-in- law, Rav Ettingah, had written a monumental work of responsa based on the questions they received while sitting together in the beis medresh.
This would indeed be an epic work, as I am unaware offhand of any sefer of shailos v’teshuvos written by a set of chavrusos!
Moreover, the book was to be called, ‘shu”t Sheves Achim’ (‘Responsa: Unity of Brothers’), a most appropriate title for such a unified holy venture.
Rav Nathenson responded to this query with a melancholy and revealing play-on-words, by stating that the ‘sheves achim’, the peace among brothers, no longer exists.
Machlokos does not just harm our relationships with each other, but has the power to even conceal Torah!1
1 One last point regarding the 19th century debate. Rav Shlomo Ahron Wertheimer of Yerushalaim (d. 1935) discovered that the 13th century rishon Meiri (in his ‘Magen Avos’) seemed to have described a process of matzo baking in his time that seems to portray a very crude type of matzo machine. He therefore posits that had gedolim against machine matzos been aware of this precedent they would have yielded to the Shoel U’Meishiv.
We should note however that many of the Meiri’s works were only discovered recently, and indeed Rav Wertheimer was a celebrated researcher of kisvei yad (manuscripts). While I have not yet been able to discover if this particular source in the Meiri was also a modern discovery, it should mentioned that if it was many would not feel obligated to it as Rav Moshe Feinstein and the Chazon Ish were very weary of modern finds –even from rishonim –influencing halacha. See this author’s forthcoming sefer on Chanukah (Chanukah: Mysteries and Histories -Mosaica Press) where this issue will be discussed at length, iy”H.
Rabbi Tzvi Yechezkel Michelson (hy’d; d. 1944), in a discussion about this machlokos, decides to end his treatment “…on a humorous note”.
He reports that Rav Shlomo Kluger and Rav Nathenson had many other communal needs to work on together. They had no choice but to move- on from the harsh arguments and words regarding machine matzos. It would seem they developed a positive attitude toward this once vitriolic debate. Once, Rav Kluger and Rav Nathenson came together to Vienna to meet with the Kaiser regarding a matter of communal import. Rav Kluger sent a request to an officer asking if they could meet that day, instead of waiting till the morning. The official explained that whatever they came for would have to wait till their scheduled meeting the next day with the Kaiser, as he is very busy and “not a machine”.
Rav Kluger smiled, turned to Rav Nathenson and said, “You see! Even in Vienne they stay away from machines!” (Shu”t ‘Tirosh VeYitzhar’, 1:188, end)
A similar story of humor being shared between disputants is told about Rav Moshe Feinstein and the Satmar rebbe. They famously debated on several sensitive matters of halacha. One of the more prominent issues that they disagreed upon was the purpose of a mechitza in a shul. The outcome of Rav Moshe’s understanding was that a valid mechitza need not be as high as what many may assume. The Satmar rebbe strongly disagreed.
It once happened that Rav Moshe and the Satmar rebbe were at a shiva house together. Sitting in front of the avel the Satmar rebbe leaned-in toward Rav Moshe and started to speak to him in learning. Rav Moshe was surprised and, glancing at the avel, hinted to the rebbe that perhaps now was not the time to learn Torah. The rebbe pointed to an ottoman next to the avel’s feet and replied, “No, we can talk in Torah in front of the avel because according to you that stool is a mechitza!”
VI. The Waters Cool…Briefly
From the 1870’s until the turn of the century things slowly started to die down in Europe. While there were still people – and their respective rabbanim –on both sides of the fence, it became clear that machine matzos were (a) here to stay and that (b) those supporting it were not out to harm Torah or mesorah.
By the 1890’s, and in many ways still true today, the question of the permissibility of machine matzos became divided along chassidim/misnagdim lines (something that Rav Nathenson was very disturbed by).
For instance, in the city of Dvinsk Rav Meir Simcha, author of the Meshech Chochma and Ohr Sameach3, who was the rav of the non- chassidim of the city, allowed machine matzos and wrote a letter to his community stating such, while the Rogatchever Gaon, Rav Rosen, who was the rav of the chasideshe shul in Dvinsk, did not approve of them.4 (Footnotes start here, with #4, as I incorporated the prior ones into the main text. Upon uploading this file, I was unable to renumber them. I apologize for any confusion)
It should then be of no surprise that Rav Moshe Mordechai Epstien of the famed (non-chasidesh) Slabodka yeshiva also allowed machine matzos, even when the machine is run on electricity (shu”t Levush Mordechai).5
However there were exceptions to these dividing lines, on both sides.
For instance while the Chafetz Chaim does not mention this raging debate in his halachik works like the Mishnah Berrura (for reasons unknown), he does state in a letter his strong suspicions relating to machine matzos 6.
So too do we find some in the chasideshe veldt who seemed to have broken ranks. The maggid of Yerushalaim R’Shalom Schwadron’s grandfather, the great chasideshe posek Rav Shalom Mordechai Schwadron –known as the Maharsham –wrote a number of teshuvos on the topic of machine matzos. While it is difficult to know precisely where he stood on the issue, it is safe to say that he leaned toward permissibility. He even stated that the suggestion that something should be presumed guilty simply because it is an innovation to how we had performed it in the past is a very weak argument.8
Another great chassideshe posek was none-to-thrilled with this disruption in chassidehshe practice. The holy rebbe of Sochatchav, Rav Avraham Borenstein, known as the Avnei Nezer, responded in a short but sharp letter regarding this psak of the Marharsham (who he does not mention by name), comparing those who would allow machine matzos in the face of the great rebbes who had already banned it as “a fly facing lions”.9
The Avnei Nezer further argues that nothing is added by having new people enter this debate. “Who is greater than Rav Nathenson who already allowed it?” asks the Avnei Nezer, “[Y]et the holy rebbes have already rejected his view…”
This is a fascinating argument. The Avnei Nezer seems to be saying that once the first generation of a holy debate closes we must assume that all the points on both sides have been exhausted. Our job then is simply to follow how our parents and teachers guided us.
Although the Marharsham’s ruling caused quite a stir, it may have been for naught. Even till today, what the Marharsham’s position regarding machine matzos really was remains hotly debated. In some letters (like the one written to St. Louise) seems to allow it, in others he even seems to prefer it, and still others where he says that he ‘never allowed it’.
So much confusion surrounds the Marharsham’s opinion that twenty years ago a great grandson of his wrote a long treatise on the matter for a Torah journal of Karlin.10
VII.The Machine Makes ‘Aliya’
The short but sharp letter of the Avnei Nezer quoted above was written in 1909. That letter, along with several others from Europe, made its way to eretz yisroel.
Already in 1873 the first matzo-baking machine was brought to Israel, however, likely due to the fact that it never became popular, it did not cause a stir.
But by 1908 and 1909 things the winds changed. Six years earlier the Cohen/Halperin machine matzo plant was founded and their matzos became prevalent among many of the non-chassidic charedim at the time (then called perushim). This was not by chance, as this factory was given hashgacha by none other than Rav Shmuel Salant! Rav Yosef Chaim Sonnenfeld also gave his hashkama –in theory –to machine matzos.11
The chassideshe charedim however truly believed these matzos to be a major violation of law.
In fact, the very same Marharsham who caused a stir in Europe because he allowed machine matzos was now being quoted as one of the main sources of the chassidim disallowing them!
Anyone who might be confused as to the give-and-take to this debate need look only to the pashkivillim (posters) that painted the walls of Yerushalaim in 1908-1909 where every opinion regarding machine matzos, every argument, is quoted, debunked, and quoted anew. As the Jewish Observer once put it, it was an all-out ‘pashkavillim war’.12
The machine matzo debate has now arrived in our holiest city.
In one of the pashkivillim citizens of Yerushalaim are invited to see the matzo baking of Rav Shmuel Salant himself!
While it comes as no surprise that some wanted machine matzos banned, it may however surprise readers to learn that the pendulum swung both ways. Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach reported how he remembered 13 that the situation with handmade matzos was so bad 14 that many rabbanim wanted to ban hand-made matzos!15
This may sound odd to our ears (and mouths) but keep in mind that this debate –going all the way back to Rav Nathenson – was not just about if machine matzos were kosher for Pesach, but if they were superior to hand matzos.
Rav Shlomo Zalman himself would only eat machine matzos on Pesach. However by the seder, he would also try to find mehadrin hand matzos to fulfill all opinions.16
As Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank explained 17 a machine has no concept of daas (knowledge) so the ‘wrong’ type of intent is impossible to place on it. All that matters is that we are able to establish that a machine is the extension of the person who turned it on. In the view of these poskim once we eliminate such concerns then a machine is not just permissible to be used for the baking of matzos, but recommended. This is because by having a machine designed for this purpose one thereby eliminates human error. In addition, the custom, based on the Chasam Sofer 18 , is to go from dough to oven in just a few minutes, something which a machine makes far more plausible. 19
We should point out that although we have written in the past of the dangers of innovation in halacha, these poskim would point out an obvious distinction: it is only innovation that could have easily have been done in the past yet, for whatever unknown reason, was ignored or bypassed that we mustn’t now ignore the mysterious concerns of old and act differently for ourselves.
In other words, it is irrelevant that until 1838 Jews only ate handmade matzos, for they had no other choice! Who is to say what the rishonim would have also rejected machine matzos had these machines been invented earlier? That is the crux of mattirim’s argument as it pertains to innovation.
While this debate in Israel has cooled, we can still find allusions to it. For instance Dayan Fisher (d. 2003) writes20 that while both types of matzo are acceptable, should be stringent and eat only machine matzos!
On the other hand, when the Chazon Ish saw that his brother-in-law, the Steipler Geon, had machine matzos for his children to eat on Pesach he promptly informed him that it was chametz!21
So, we began in Lvov and ended in Yerushalaim. In both Europe and Israel what began as a heated debate ended in mutual respect.22
But this machine still has one more stop to make: America.
VII.‘Only In America’
NPR’s ‘Planet Money” recently had a report on matzo in general, focusing on Manischewitz. 24
“’My guide through the factory is one of the world’s leading authorities on making matzo. He’s not a rabbi, or even a Jew. I was raised Southern Baptist and my wife is Roman Catholic and I’m running operations for the country’s largest Jewish food company,’ says Randall Copeland. Only in America.”
According to the April 10, 2012 edition of the New York Times, each year about 130 million dollars is spent on matzo. Manischewitz alone – according to a recent story in the New Yorker –produces over 76,000,000 individual pieces of matzo annually!
While most of these sales take place on or before Pesach, there is also a not-insignificant percentage that is bought throughout the year. In fact, former president Bill Clinton has a famous friend who often makes him matzo-brei when he comes over to visit!
The story of how machine matzo in America came to be, and came to be accepted by many, is a notable one.
One of the main supporters of machine matzos in Israel was Rav Nafatlai Amsterdam. Born in Salant in 1832, he would later become one of the most famous disciples of Rav Yisroel Salanter. Often supporting himself with a bakery owned and operated by his wife, he settled in Israel in 1906, three year before the eruption of the ‘matzo storm’ examined in the last chapter.
Some thirty years after the birth of Rav Naftali another baby boy was born in Salant. Born to R’ Yechiel Michael Manischewitz, they named their new son Dov Ber. He too would go on to study with Rav Yisroel Salanter (in the town of Memel), and, as we could guess from his last name, he too would support himself with a bakery of some type.
Indeed, this family was not just close with Rav Yisroel Salanter, but truly desired to follow in his ways. Soon after Manischewitz Matzo was founded in Cincinnati in 1888 a friend of Rav Ber opened up a competing matzo business. Writing to his father in Europe in search of a letter from a respected rav disallowing this competition, the son received a reply letter of harsher tone, beseeching him to follow the ways of the recently deceased Rav Salanter and seek only peace.
Matzo had been baked in America since its infancy; there is even documentation of Jewish soldiers during the civil war –on both sides – receiving rations of matzo during Pesach.
However, machine matzos were still largely unheard of in America. In the above referenced New Yorker piece Rav Ber is likened to Steve Jobs (the creator of Apple Computers) whose genius was not based on problem –making the matzo even more removed from the hand of its creator(s).25
The reader should note that at this time in American history there were very few chasideshe rebbes in the country, and the absence of these, the strongest opponents of machine matzo, allowed Manischewitz’s successes to grow exponentially. To illustrate, Rav Eliyahu Yosef Rabinowitz, often cited as the first rebbe in America, emigrated in 1899 and passed away in Buffalo, New York just eleven years later (where he is buried and visited by many each year. He is the subject of this author’s 2023 Summer Series in Ami Magazine. Others may posit that Rav Avraham Ash was in fact chassidesh and therefore should be considered as the first rebbe in America).
Although the opposition to machine matzos in America was minimal, and even Rav Yaakov Yosef26 (also a student of Rav Yisroel Salanter,invention per se, rather in taking that which already exists and perfecting and streamlining it.
R’ Ber Manischewitz not only accepted machine matzos as kosher for Pesach, he perfected its process, and even advertised them as ‘square’, something which some rabbanim in Europe had taken issue with (as discussed last year in Part 1).
It should also be pointed out that, in time, the matzos that Manischewitz was producing were not exactly like the machine matzos of Europe. Manischewitz owned tens of patents making not just their matzos ahead of their time, but even their factory. Much of their innovations were adopted by other companies of the time and are still in use –although modernized –today, such as ‘electric eyes’ that count how many units are being produced during production.
Whereas initially a ‘machine’ matzo was but rolled mechanically, now they were rolled, shaped, pulled, and marked all by a machine. The oven too was far more modern than what was being used in Europe, and was gas fueled.
While some would argue that these made the process less problematic from a halachic perspective, others saw this as only adding to the problem –making the matzo even more removed from the hand of its creator(s).25
The reader should note that at this time in American history there were very few chasideshe rebbes in the country, and the absence of these, the strongest opponents of machine matzo, allowed Manischewitz’s successes to grow exponentially. To illustrate, Rav Eliyahu Yosef Rabinowitz, often cited as the first rebbe in America, emigrated in 1899 and passed away in Buffalo, New York just eleven years later (where he is buried and visited by many each year. He is the subject of this author’s 2023 Summer Series in Ami Magazine. Others may posit that Rav Avraham Ash was in fact chassidesh and therefore should be considered as the first rebbe in America).
Although the opposition to machine matzos in America was minimal, and even Rav Yaakov Yosef 26 (also a student of Rav Yisroel Salanter, interestingly) supported their use on Pesach,27 there remained some doubt in the hearts of some.
Enter Rav Zechryah Yosef Rosenfeld. Rav Rosenfeld was already a distinguished rav in Europe when he fled to America in 1893. By 1894 he was elected rav of one of the shuls in St. Louise.
Although few recognize his name, Rav Rosenfeld was one of the most important rabbanim to the history of America. To understand his sacrifice in taking a stand regarding machine matzos at the turn of the century, one needs to be aware of the bristly decade leading up to it.
In the late 1890’s Rav Rosenfeld designed and constructed the very first city eruv in America. This was no small feat, as even before his St. Louise eruv was built it drew heavy criticism from another gaon who also served as rav in that same city, Rav Shalom Elchanan Jaffe. Rav Jaffe published a sefer, ‘Shoel K’Inyan’, a treatise seeking to show that the (proposed) eruv would be unacceptable.
Looking at the dates it is apparent that the very same year Rav Rosenfeld arrived in St. Louise he announced his plans to build an eruv! Like many rabbanim, he felt it was his duty to protect Shabbos by building a city eruv.28 In 1896 he published a defense of his planned eruv, in a sefer titled, ‘Tikvas Zecharyah’. Utilizing telegraph wires and the Mississippi River, the first city eruv in America was built.
Although he was viscously attacked for his eruv –and both sides sought haskamos from around the world (an article for a different time) – Rav Rosenfeld somehow found the strength to write another sefer, on yet another controversial topic.
In 1905 29 he published ‘Tikvas Yosef’ where he demonstrates why machine matzos, and specifically those, like Manischewitz, being produced in America, are kosher for Pesach. Like with his sefer defending his eruv, he sought letters from distinguished rabbanim. Once again, the Marharsham is quoted as allowing machine matzos, with certain conditions,30 and once again his true position remains unclear.
Many supported Rav Rosenfeld arguments, however there were exceptions. The author of the Darkei Teshuvah, for instance, wrote that he simply could not offer a haskama after the holy Divrei Chaim banned machine matzos.31
Manischewitz for their part opened their doors to any and all rabbanim to see and inspect the process for themsleves. In the late 1930’s they even published a book listing over one hundred rabbanim who supported their venture. They even assert that Rav Meir Shapiro ate Manischewitz matzo the entire year, knowing that there would never be any kashrus concern with their product (i.e. hafrashas challa)!
In the March 1938 edition of the prestigious Torah journal ‘HaPardes’ a 25-page supplement was published celebrating the yovel (jubilee) of Manischewitz machine matzo (ending right before the yiddish advertisement for Dr. Pepper!). There one finds letters from the most eminent litvehse poskim of the time.
One will also discover something else, something fascinating. The Manischewitz family had opened a yeshivah in Yerushalaim, becoming quite close with many of the poskim of the city. It is unclear when this small yeshiva was dissolved, but from the information provided in HaPardes it was clearly a serious place. Indeed, already as young boys, Rav Ber Manischewitz sent his two sons to Yerushalaim to learn at the famous Yeshivas Etz Chaim, something that few families in Ohio of the time did! Rav Ber was serious about Torah and, in addition, these connections to great leaders of Israel allowed him ‘in the door’ so that he could better articulate how his machine matzo process worked. So that the reader does not misunderstand this last point, it is not to suggest that friendship changes a psak, challila, rather that a posek needs to know that the man seeking to innovate is not after a more perverse prize or heading toward a more rash progression.
Knowing Rav Ber as a man of Torah, a family with deep roots in the classical Torah world, evidenced character and helped soothe any question of a ‘greater agenda’, which if the reader recalls from Part 1 was no small part of the concern of those who wanted machine matzos banned when they were first introduced.
[See Sidebar for a picture that Rav Tzvi Pesach Frank and others had sent to HaPardes in celebration of Manischewitz’s jubilee].
IX. Epilogue?
Many people see machine matzos as a b’dieved, something only allowed on Pesach ex post facto, at best. The information we have provided shows that, at least among the non-chasidim, it is far more complicated than that, with some gedolim even preferring machine over hand matzos.
In addition, no one would argue that machine matzo factories are anything but vigilant in controlling their environment. So intense is the kosher for Pesach supervision at Manischewitz, Streits, Yehudah, etc. that it caused NPR to state, “The matzo business may be the most heavily regulated business in the world.”32
Aside for gaining an understanding of the effort and Torah that goes into so much of what we enjoy, we can learn another valuable lesson from what we have learned: not every machlokos in Torah and halacha must end in bitterness. When there are legitimate poskim on either side of an issue, and after all the points have been made and all the ink spilled, each family can follow the views of their particular leaders while at the same time recognizing that eilu v’eilu (the principle that two incompatible views in halacha can each retain an inherent truth) did not perish with the closing of the Gemara.
However, our story has one last chapter…
X. “Are These Also ‘Machine Matzos’?” A New Company Breaths New Life Into An Old Debate
When it comes to Pesach, the ‘new’ is always, and should always be, suspect.
We all saw, for example, how something as innocuous as
quinoa has divided poskim and even families over the past decade. When my in-laws come for Pesach we actually make two cholents –one for my family with quinoa and one for them, without.
This is more so true when it comes to innovations in matzah production.
Over the past two years (this was written in 2018) ‘Birchas HaPesach’ in eretz yisroel has been producing a new kind of matzah. This new matzah is described by some as handmade matzah, and by others as no better, or different, than machine matzas. Still others, unconcerned how they are described, are ambivalent toward them simply because they are ‘new’.
What is this new machine?
First , imagine a pasta machine.
One places their prepared pasta dough into the tiny space
between two pins/rollers and he begins to crank with his hand, causing the pins/rollers to pull, press, stretch and roll out your dough in seconds. He does this a few times and his dough will become thinner and thinner, ready to be cut and shaped into fresh lasagna noodles.
Now imagine this same type of metal pins/roller-crank used for making and shaping matzas.
The dough starts off the same as any handmade matzah, however, once made and cut into balls, instead of handing each ball to someone to roll
out and shape with a rolling pin, it is handed to a man who places it into a ‘pasta-maker-like’ contraption. It is simultaneously cranked as it is placed between the metal pins which then quickly pulls it through, coming out longer and thinner.
Immediately, someone then takes this-now flatter- dough and passes it on to the next, similar crank device, which thins it out even more. All in all, it passes through five such hand-cranked devices and goes from there immediately to the oven.
Amazingly, from dough to matzah takes about two minutes! From the above description these matzas would seem not only kosher, but mehudar.
The Rema rules that matzah dough should not rest before its baking. Although the Mishneh Berrura points out that it would still be kosher if it rested a little bit, we should try to have it not rest at all, he writes.
In addition, the custom, based on the Chasam Sofer 33 , is to go from dough to oven in just a few minutes, something which until now was only feasible with a machine. 34 With these new matzos, it can now be done with this new ‘hand’ method where almost all waiting periods in matzah production are eliminated.
However, one crucial question remains: while perhaps mehudar in some ways, are these new matzas considered to be machine made thereby prohibiting chassidim and many others from eating them on Pesach, or should they be seen as handmade?
Although these matzas are kosher l’pesach under the hashagacha of Rav Mordechai Gross shlita, Rav Moshe Brandsdorfer wrote a letter expressing his support for these ‘new’ matzas even for chassidim.
The other day – together with Rav Chaim Schwartz, rav hamachshir of the Vaad Harrabanim of Queens -I spoke with Rav Moshe Brandsdorfer over the telephone. He explained his position as well as answered some of the detractors’?
Rav Moshe Brandsdorfer comes from chashuv chassidishe yichus. His father was Hagaon Harav Meir Brandsdorfer (d. 2009), one of the gedolei haposekim in Yerushalaim of the last generation. Rav Moshe himself is a highly respected posek and av beis din.
This yichus is important because, as pointed out before, chassideshe poskim are generally weary of machine innovation in matzah. Therefore, Rav Moshe’s approval is very substantial and significant.
The salient question I posed to him was the following: at what point is a matzah handmade and at what point does it cross the line into something else and become ‘machine’ made? As the Shoel U’Meishiv put it –does even using a simple rolling pin make matzas machine made?
Rav Moshe explained that he believes that any concern the great poskim of the past had with machines used for making matzah simply does not exist by these new matzas.
Before quoting from our conversation, in his teshuva (responsum) written in support of these matzas he explains why these are hand matzas and not machine. Even though in the early days of the debate of machine matzas they were also not using electricity and yet were banned by chassideshe poskim –so that one can claim that the fact that these new matzas use no electricity does not prove that they are not machines- there is still a vital distinction bwteen those initial machine matzas and these new ones. Those early ‘machines’ were using rollers that rolled the rollers. Meaning, a ‘machine’ by definition is not the use
of one man and one tool-like a kneading pin-rather the use of a system, a processing of many actions.
In other words, these crank rollers are indeed no different –halachickly- from regular rolling pins.
After reading this teshuva, and after listening to him express these same thoughts in our phone conversation, I asked him another crucial question. It is one thing to say that these too are handmade and not machine made, but is there a maaleh with these new matzas even above and beyond regular handmade matzah?
He replied by making a fascinating point: With regular rolling pins, they and one’s hands get warm/hot from
the constant non-stop action of rolling matzah after matzah after matzah. This heat can lead to issues of possible chimutz. So that this new method is not only matzas yad (handmade) but is better than typical rolling-pin- made hand matzah!
He then shared a personal matter.
“My family has the minhag of not only avoiding-of course-all machine matzah, but we do not even use matzah where regular rolling pins are used in shaping the matzah. So of course, if someone has this family chumrah then indeed they should avoid
these new matzas –as well, for that matter, even many traditional hand matzas.
“However, this is not so common, and so long as someone does not have such a minhag, even among chassidem, this matzah is kosher and considered hand matzah, no different than hand matzah made with regular rolling pins”
He added the following caveat:
“Of course, when it comes to Pesach every family has personal and familial chumros…” but when it halachikly these matzas are indeed handmade.
His point was clear. If one eats hand matzah rolled with regular rolling pins then this matzah is not only the same thing, but perhaps even better (due to avoiding any idle resting and warmed rolling pins and hands).
As to the arguments that even if these are not ‘machine matzas’ per se, they are still utilizing a new and unique method, he explained both on the phone and in his letter. “The concerns of Rav Shlomo Kluger and the other great poskim do not exist here. The simple fact is that these matzas are made with a koach rishon (a person is churning the crank)
no different than rolling pins, this is as opposed to a machine where the major concern was koach kocho (a secondary force; a person only presses a button-or the like- which then causes a whole chad gadya to take place beyond his input).”
With this he also explained why the kavana issue which was at the heart of many of the concerns of the past simply do not not exist here.
This is a significant distinction, as the rav pointed out, for even teffilin made and advertised as avodas hayad (handmade) often use various koach rishon mechanisms and tools.
In addition, he pointed out that such ‘new’ rollers are not that new at all.
Furthermore, concerns of excess dough that was cut away from the molding and shaping of the matzah is unique as well to (certain older, crude) matzah machines, whereas in this case the matzas are simply formed from the pressure –no different than a rolling pin-leaving no excess matzah behind.
The rav explained that he does not typically provide hashgachos, and even here it is under the hashgacha of Rav Gross, rather he wanted to show his support to a matzah that he felt was very lichatchila.
Are there any detractors to this view?
Initially I could not find any posek on the record who disagreed with this psak. However, a couple of weeks before Pesach this year, a series of letters were distributed purported to assur these matzas for those who do not eat machine matzah. In particular, there was a letter signed by none other than Rav Shmuel Vosner zt’l.
However, upon closer examination of this letter, it turns out that if read carefully (which we should always do when reading letters of gedolim) it says no such thing.
For instance, looking at the date of the letter one notices that it is from ten years ago! (16 years ago from 2025).
Rav Mordechai Gross –a close disciple of Rav Wosner- explained that this was written regarding a new type of machine that was devolved a decade ago and which has no bearing to these new matzas. I contacted Rav Moshe Refoel Laufer, one of Rav Brandsdorfer’s gabbeim who not only agreed, but told me that Rav Moshe Brandsdorfer also believes that this ten-year old idea would have been considered machine matzah.
As for the few letters that were signed this year by some chassidesheh rabbanim, some make mention of the psak of Rav Vosner, and others mention the ruling of Rav Shlomo Kluger, which calls into question if they were given an accurate description of these particular matzas, which indeed are very different than machines and seem not different than stam rolling pins.
In the end, chassidesheh readers, as well as others who only eat handmade matzah will have to ask their personal morah horah if they are to consider these new matzas machine made or hand made, as we have entered uncharted waters in this one-hundred and fifty year-old debate.
“Ki Lo V’Chipazon Teitzu…- You Shall Not Go Out In Haste…” (Yeshayahu 52:12).
The navi teaches us that whereas we left mitzraim in a hurry and therefore our dough did not have time to rise, when moshiach comes we will leave with calmness.35
Perhaps the navi is issuing a challenge to us, that when great poskim share their holy views, we should not automatically attack and question it, rather, and with a sense of calm and with a feeling of being unrushed, we shall discuss it dispassionately.
Perhaps, if we can allow for an eilu v’eilu and a peaceful machlokos l’shem shomyaim, this alone can be a zechus for bias goel.
May this Pesach bring about a new geulah and a new calm. May we soon join to share in matzas together with the korban pesach in Yerushalaim.
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NOTES:
Due to a glitch, notes start at number 4:
4 Both of their respective views are expressed in letters: Rav Meir Simcha to his surrounding areas, and the Rogatcahver in a 1909 letter to Yerushalaim. It is interesting that the latter seemed to have kept his opinion to himself in his own city, likely to avoid machlokos, or, perhaps R’ Meir Simcha was viewed more as the rav ha’ir. See also shu”t Tzphanos Paneach 2:39.
5 For a full list of those who discuss electricity as it pertains to machine matzos, see shu”t Vayevarech Dovid 1:91.
6 I would venture to suggest that he did not mention the issue because this debate was still ongoing, and, because there were respected and trustworthy views on both sides, the Chofetz Chaim may have wisely surmised that adding one more name to either the ‘approve’ column or the ‘disapprove’ one would accomplish but one thing: cut the number of those who would study his monumental work in half, as theones whom he offended would avoid his work. Even more surprising than the Mishnah Berrura’s omission of this debate is the Aruch Hashulchan’s. He as well fails to mention machine matzos. The difference between the M.B. and the Aruch Hashulchan, it seems to me, is that M.B. comes to explain the Shulchan Aruch, as a collected commentary, and it is not always its goal to share customs unless directly reflecting on a point being discussed. The Aruch Hashulchan however is meant not as a commentary to the Shulchan Aruch per se but rather a research tool to be used instead of or in concert to the Shulchan Aruch (for those who desire more background material, etc.). Accordingly, the Aruch Hashulchan oftenbrings the minhagim from across Europe. Nevertheless, regarding machine matzos, he may have had the same fears which I suggested above that the Chofetz Chaim may have had.
7 See ‘Chafetz Chaim –Chayav U’Poelo’ vol. 3
8 Shu”t Marhasham 5:82, as quoted by Hildesheir and Lieberman.
9 2:537 (may not be found in some volumes). See also siman 372 where the Avnei Nezer expresses his displeasure even regarding the mass production of matzo, of even handmade. He felt that this too wasnot just a new development, but should concern us because when one makes matzo for themselves they are far more particular than one making it for unknown and unseen people.
10 ‘Kovetz Beis Ahron V’Yisroel’, vol. 3:51
11 To a plant in Haifa. This was later rescinded due to concerns unrelated to this discussion
12 Jewish Observer, April 2004. Much work on this topic proceeded my own and whose research benefited me greatly. Shu”t VaYevarech Dovid 1:88; R. D. Schwartz, Sinai, issue 64; J. Sarna’s written remarks on this subject based on a lecture given at Touro College and found at Brandies.edu, Jewish Observer ibid., Hildesheimer and Leiberman’s ‘The Controversy Surrounding Machine Made Matzot’, inter alai.
13 Although born the year following this debate -1910 –this was still a controversial issue for at least a decade after. It is more likely that he was referring to a later time
14 See part 1 for what these problems might have been
15 Halichos Shlomo, Pesach, 157-158 #46
16 While everyone agrees that he ate machine matzo for the remaining days of Pesach, what he did by the seder is a matter of dispute. Based on the two sources I found that discuss his custom (Halacha Shel Pesach (Freidman) p. 481 and Halichos Shlomo ad loc. what is written above seems to be the most accurate
21 Maaseh Ish vol. 5; see also Shaarei Ish p. 44 that the Chazon Ish said that as a matter of law one mustn’t eat machine matzos; Cf. Chazon Ish O’C 6
22 See Nittei Gavriel who quotes from the Klausenberger rebbe z’l that even those against machine matzos would no longer call such matzo ‘chometz’
23 See ‘Sarna’ mentioned in a footnote above. Much of the material found in this section would not be possible without his investigations into this subject
24 April 10, 2012
25 The Satmar rebbe –in Divrei Yoel 1:35 –makes just that argument, suggesting that the early mattirim of machine matzos are poor evidence to the allowance of the more modern ones.
26 Incidentally, this writer published the following last year (2024): “If asked to name a yeshiva in America that was founded by a ‘Rav Kotler’, the inevitable response would be: Beth Medrash Govoha, known colloquially as ‘Lakewood’.While a correct answer, it is not the only one, as we will briefly explain: The famous Malbim was initially hired to fill the position as the first ‘Chief Rabbi of New York’. However, he sadly passed away before his departure to America.It would be several years later when the city would choose the incomparable RJJ, Rav Yaakov Yosef to lead them, and soon, Rav Shlomo Nosson Kotler moved from Lita to New York to serve as his sgan.Rav S.N. Kotler was not simply an assistant, rather was an accomplished gaon in his own right. Telz’s Rav Eliezar Gordon described this Rav Kotler as ‘The Ketzos of the generation”! Incidentally, Rav Kotler may aid in resolving a question I’ve had for years: what was RJJ’s last name? Writing in a haskama to a sefer published in Buffalo, NY in the 1880’s (!) Rav Kotler shares (translation): “Behold, I come as the messenger for the great gaon, Rav Yaakov ‘Yozuhf’, the rav hakollel…”Here, Rav Kotler’s spelled ‘Yosef’ as:זיעאף : yud, aleph, zayin, ayin, pehThis may demonstrate that ‘Yosef/Yozuhf was his last name!”
27 See ‘Tikvas Yosef’ at length; See also ‘Hapardes’ March 1938 in the supplement (mentioned in more detail below) for a complete list of the many chashuvim who gave their haskama to the Manischewitz Co.
28 Refer to shu”t Ro’sh, klal 21
29 Although the book states that it was published in 1903, this was impossible
30 His letter to Rav Rosenfeld can be found in shu”t Marharsham 2:15
31 Found in the back to the Darkei Teshuvah’s sefer on Chumash, ‘Tiferes Banim’. His words echo the argument made by the Avnei Nezer
It Has Become More Common For ‘Normal’ Children From ‘Average’ Homes To Be Rejected From Their Local Torah Centers and Bais Yaakovs. Have We Honestly Assessed the Risk/Reward of the Current System — For the Children and For the Klal? Does Mesorah Offer Guidance? Of Course It Does.
By Rabbi Moshe Taub | Ami Magazine, September 2023 (abridged)
I. Another September
– “When something needs to be said, silence becomes a lie.”
September carries the scent of new backpacks for most families. But there’s a parallel ‘September Universe’ — where supplies go un-ordered, and fresh tears replace new school styles. So many children — Hashem yerachem! — are rejected from elementary school after elementary school, from their local Bais Yaakovs. Some find placement before the year begins, but only after severe, irrevocable disenchantment with the klal, her Torah, and its leadership, R”l.
II. The Birth of Bais Yaakov
In Fall 1917, with twenty-five students and a two-room apartment, Sara Schenirer opened the first Bais Yaakov. Fifteen years later, over forty thousand girls were enrolled in umbrella Bais Yaakovs in Poland alone. The irony is that Bais Yaakov was founded to pull bnos Yisroel lacking a full chinuch at home off the ‘streets.’ Now those very girls — most desirous of direction — are often locked out, forced back onto the streets. If rudderlessness was dangerous in the 1920s, allowing it today is quasi-infanticide.[1] • Even if 99% of modern rejections are warranted, bitul b’rov doesn’t apply to pikuach nefesh. We will still answer for every one of that 1% of neshamos thrown to today’s wolves.
III. The Common Excuses — And What We Are Not Discussing
Before this discussion is derailed: • Yes, each yeshiva must weed out certain students. • Yes, competition and tuition are real factors. • Yes, some students genuinely fit better elsewhere. • No, we are not discussing children who refuse a school’s rules. • No, we are not discussing seminary or beis medrash admission. • Yes, Lakewood and Brooklyn face unique challenges unrelated to what follows. We are discussing the average, normally-challenged children of acheinu beis Yisroel — and whether our mesorah ever sanctioned what’s being done to them.
IV. A Sea Change
Over twenty years, American chinuch has undergone a paradigm shift. Gone is the era of the American rabbi convincing a newly frum or growing family to send a boy to yeshiva, a girl to Beis Yaakov — and with it, many future gedolim. The Netziv, at a seudas hodah for his newest sefer, recalled overhearing his parents as a child: his father comforted his mother, “Not everyone is destined to be a talmid chacham. He can still become a simple shoemaker.” He posed a thought experiment: “Imagine if I hadn’t overheard my parents that night. I would have become Naftilka the shoemaker — frum, a good husband, a giver of tzedaka. But at my din, Hashem would ask: Netziv! Where are your sheilos v’teshuvos, your commentary to the Sheiltot, your peirushim on the Torah? I would answer: Who is this ‘Netziv’? I was shomer Torah u’mitzvos…” Will we not be tasked with presenting the erased gedolim — and sefarim — stolen from our kehillos?[2] A personal story: a present-day gadolb’Torah in Eretz Yisroel attended a co-ed elementary school, majority not shomer Shabbos. He wished to attend Ner Yisroel Toronto for 9th grade and spent the summer learning with my older brothers. The yeshiva had conditions, but his past wasn’t one of them. He became an incomparable masmid, married into Torah royalty, and now has talmidim worldwide.
Could that happen today?
V. The Response
Some object, arguing, won’t we also be judged for failing to protect our children from bad influences? Is every wild-child destined to become a Netziv? However, severely troubled or harmful children aren’t this monograph’s focus and shouldn’t scapegoat what we’re discussing: the “sin” of being average, or not yet connected to one’s studies — children who need mechanchim more than others. Walking into a local girls’ high school recently to give a talk, I saw anxious parents waiting with their daughters for interviews. Two mothers were reciting Tehillim. Zu Torah v’zu schorah?
VI. R.I.P. Communal Schools?
One cause for this shift is the death of the communal day school. Places like Lakewood and the Five Towns grew rapidly, demanding new schools — which bred distinctions, then competition, then more schools. With each iteration: Who is now oirev for the city’s children? What are the rules of acceptance? Should any kehilla exist without at least one communal mesorah day school? Large towns now resemble the proverbial island of ten Jewish men who never missed a minyan — until an eleventh arrived. After that, no one had a secure minyan; each depended on the other. That sense of personal achrayos was lost.
VII. A Bnei Brak Miracle
A now-famous video shows Rav Steinman incredulous at mechanchim seeking his haskama to reject elementary school children. After dismissing their arguments, they played their trump card: the mother is “open-minded,” re-married. Rav Steinman: “So she shouldn’t have remarried? Not want the best cheder for her kids?” They added that chashuveh, frummer parents were concerned the family wasn’t their “type.” Rav Steinman banged the table: “There is always that person… It’s coming from their gayvah.” Mechanchim: “But these are bnei Torah, talmidei chachamim…” Rav Steinman, louder: “Yes. Especially from such people! It’s all gayvah… Gayvah! Gayvah! Gayvah!” He recalled his cheder in Brisk, where children of Communist and Bund Party members sat beside the Brisker Rav’s children — and some of the simplest children became leading roshei yeshiva. “Did Rav Dovid Soloveitchik turn out ok?” I spent two years learning under Rav Dovid Soloveitchik. He’d be aghast at what some balla batim do to our children today. Summation of Our mesorah: • If a school believes its chinuch carries the torch of mesorah, any parent/child who wants that mesorah — and will follow the rules — should be accepted, if on trial. • In mid-size cities: a parent sincerely seeking a Torah U’Mesorah day school, willing to follow the rules, should be accepted immediately, if on trial. • This is how it has always been. I know of no daas Torah demanding we abandon this winning strategy. • “Just as I [Moshe] learned Torah for free, so too you must teach for free.” (Nedarim 37a) • “Do not read it as engraved (charus) but as freedom for all (chierus).” (Avos 6:2) • Chazal explain not every gadol’s son becomes a gadol — to remind the klal that Torah isn’t a yerusha; it can come from anyone. (Nedarim 81a) • “Be careful lest you undervalue teaching Torah to the sons of paupers, as from them will Torah spring.” (Nedarim 81a; Rashi: because these children are humble) • The Chasam Sofer, on “negative influences” from less-privileged students: we’re discussing the Heavenly Torah, whose zechus protects. (Chiddushei Chasam Sofer, Nedarim ad loc.) • “Anyone who teaches Torah to the son of an am ha’aretz — even if Hashem issued a harsh decree, He may nullify it for his sake.” (Bava Metziah 85a).
VIII. The Reality of ‘Rejection Letters’
“Helplessly seeing my young child go through this is more excruciating than my disease.”
— A dying mother to my wife. She passed before finding comfort. Her daughter — a tznius Beis Yaakov girl with perfect grades and middos — was rejected because her parents were ill.
Whatever one feels about this monograph’s suggestions, one thing is certain: twelve-year-old girls should never receive a “rejection” letter from their community. Calling it “not a communal school” won’t soften a child’s reaction and a possible aversion to Torah thus caused. The die is cast by then.
If such letters must be sent, local rabbanim must work with schools to secure placement first. Every January, every yeshiva should partner with local mechanchim, askanim, and rabbanim toward that end. Many Bais Yaakovs already do this for seminary placement — staff work tirelessly by mid-year in 12th grade to place every girl, purely to avoid shame. Apply that same effort here.[3]
It boggles the mind, that the same Torah that invented a law of ridding the army from its strongest men -of marriage and new house age -just to save the embarrassment of the baalei aveira (Sota 44), is now being ‘protected’ on the backs of the tears of little boys and girls.
IX. Not Just the Child
This fallout spreads. Parents feel ostracized by their community, leaders, even friends.
“My parents haven’t talked to me since we became frum. All that sacrifice, for what? To be told I’m not a real bas Sarah imeinu? So my daughter winds up on the very streets I ran from?”
Some parents changed shuls or moved cities over this — painfully leaving the already-humiliated children feeling responsible for their parents’ shame. As my wife observed: we have groups for every issue affecting our youth. But the child who is neither brilliant nor severely troubled has no advocate, no club. Who can blame such a child for aligning with someone, anyone? That’s more likely the result of rejection than proof it was warranted. Chazal teach the only way to verify a questionable letter in a Sefer Torah is through an “average child” (Mishnah Berurah 143:25) — perhaps hinting that it’s often the average child who carries Torah’s future.[4]. Hameivin yavin.
X. Advocacy
“It was behind closed doors. It was quiet — under the table.” — Mrs. Jenine Shwekey and Mrs. Chaya Bender, founders of The Special Children’s Center, on a not-too-distant past when such needs were hidden from view.
Our grandchildren, iy”H, will be shocked this issue was ever hidden. Before any mechanech invokes the “heter” to opt out of being a communal Bais Yaakov, read this diary entry, shared with the girl’s permission:
…By 8th grade I was applying to high school. January 11 was acceptance-letter night. I expected the best day of my life. 6:01 PM: “Wait listed.” Then again: “Wait listed.” Again: “Wait listed.” School X — the one that mattered most: not accepted. I ran to my room and skipped dinner. The next day was worse — I walked in with shame, while everyone else who’d applied got in. Why doesn’t anyone want me? Am I that unlikeable?
Whenever helping a family through this, I first investigate -speaking to teachers, looking at report cards. I’ve worked with B and A students alike, all with good middos. So why the “no”? A rav’s exchange with a principal, re: a “C” student:
“She’s not academically up to par, though she’s sincere and frum.” “Don’t you tell your 12th graders not to attend college?” “Yes, what’s that got to do with it?”
“And to marry a yungerman, become a ballabusta, have bitachon rather than worry about parnassa?”
“Yes, of course.”
“Beautiful — so you’ll reject a thirteen-year-old over academics?!”
Another case: a Beis Yaakov alumna, living in a shelter for abused women, called me. Her twelve-year-old had stellar grades, exemplary middos, was popular — and her local Beis Yaakov still refused her. I offered to cover therapy and tuition, and begged the school president, a real-estate developer worried the girl might one day display emotional needs, “like a ben sorrer,” the school wasn’t equipped for. I responded: could there be a better role model for your students? And to claim concern for her mental health while sealing her into another existential rejection?
Worse, I was the only one who called her teachers and her therapist. Those who called me an interloper hadn’t.
XI. ‘Communal’ Opt Out
No person or group may unilaterally declare a school no longer “communal” without presenting both sides to daas Torah. When Rav Chaim Volozhiner founded the first modern yeshiva independent of the local community: (A) it wasn’t for girls — our mesorah never sent girls away from home for school; (B) it wasn’t for elementary schools; (C) most crucially, Rav Chaim waited for — and delayed the yeshiva over — the Gra’s haskama.
Chazal (Nedarim 81a) teach that not every gadol’s son becomes a gadol so connected families don’t “lord over their kehilla” -Mar Zutra says they’d call ordinary people donkeys. Rashi notes it’s natural for such people (myself included, perhaps) to breed condescension.
I’ll close with something a rebbe recently shared: his 8th-grade daughter begged him not to quit his parsha shiur until after her entrance exam. Whether her fear was warranted is beside the point – is that the message, and the chinuch, we are giving our children?!
XII. Reasons vs. Solutions
Yagati b’anchasi, aschcha b’chol Layla mitasi, b’dimusi arsi amseh // I am spent from sighing; nightly, I soak my bed with tears. — Daily Tachanun
The most common reasons given for rejecting an otherwise worthy 12-13-year-old girl are: • Space • Not a frum enough home • Lack of resources for an emotional issue at home • Competition with other schools • Grades • Middos/Tznius/Hashkafa
Space: No school short an algebra teacher would say, “we’ll start without algebra.” Torah chinuch matters more — “no solution” isn’t accepted there either. Chazal (Sanhedrin 20) teach that six people pushing a tallis toward each other can cover all six; it fails only when each grabs for himself. Rav Moshe Feinstein similarly taught in Darash Moshe: do right by yeshivos, and money and space follow. Isn’t this what we teach our girls — marry a learning boy, trust b’bitachon, don’t obsess over space and money? I can’t reconcile that with our actions here. More: many large shuls sit empty all week, near schools, while we’re talking twenty to thirty rejected girls per school. If space were the real concern, where are the parlor meetings warning, “We may have a space issue next year”? Chazal (Bava Basra 21a) remind us klal Yisroel invented the classroom and the communal duty to educate every city’s children. Home Environment: A girl who’s proven she can follow rules despite a hard home life benefits most from Bais Yaakov — and is a positive influence on girls from good homes who struggle too. Worse, voicing this concern to young girls creates a self-fulfilling prophecy and teaches them to resent their parents. My mother-in-law, Mrs. Linda Levin, attended a modern Orthodox high school – her single mother didn’t cover her hair, and there was a TV in every room. On graduation day, she nervously explained her background to Rebbetzin Vichna Kaplan, founder of the American Beis Yaakov movement, and was accepted immediately for her earnest desire to learn. She became a mechaneches to thousands. Rav Nota Greenblatt was stunned by the one-directional worry:
“They’re afraid the bad girls will influence the good ones? When will the good girls influence the bad ones? Keep the mevakshos away, and it never happens!”
Rav Aaron Levine once shared his bechina for Telshe Cleveland in the late 1950s. He was asked whether Noach was a tzadik or rasha and, lacking much Jewish education, he answered, “I don’t know.” The rosh yeshiva smiled: “Exactly right — Rashi brings both opinions.” Doing right al pi daas Torah for the tekufa doesn’t harm the institution; Torah’s survival is itself a ness. Grades and Tznius: I agree! Only girls who agree, m’kaan u’l’habah, to follow a school’s rules should be accepted, sometimes on trial. Full stop. But dismissing a girl’s future out of hand over twelve-year-old mistakes? She’s a child! That such judgment falls around Elul is beyond ironic. We’re mechanchim — teach her, inspire her. Competition: Each city should have a vaad hachinuch of local rabbanim/roshei yeshiva. Come January, the private list of unplaced students goes to this group for placement — no reputation suffers if every yeshiva accepts the framework. We read of guards at the beis medrash door, of Hillel on the snow-covered roof, and are shocked such systems existed. Is today so different? Rav Elya Svei taught that Rabbi Akiva’s students erred not by disrespecting each other, but by forgetting to respect each other’s potential. Teach them, don’t judge them. Inspire, don’t dismiss.
XIII. Conclusion
• If our local elementary schools and Bais Yaakovs aren’t oreivin for these girls, who is? This is not meant rhetorically. • Can anyone claim hefker on local children by declaring the one local Bais Yaakov no longer “communal”? Also not rhetorical. • No institution should carry this alone. Our mechanchim are among the holiest — this isn’t an attack on them.
I’ll close with what I share each Tisha B’av before our shul’s kinnah for churban Europe: beyond the six million, and beyond the Torah lost, who knows what cures for cancer went up in smoke in the crematoria — the death of Jewish potential buried on those grounds. It forces me in life to focus not only on my mistakes, but on the fruits I’ve let be sullied along the way. It’s what I think of every time an unfamiliar mother calls mid-day: this child may be the next gadol, or produce one. I must act as a member of Hatzalah. And so should you. May HKBH save us all from michshol.
Notes [1] See the Chofetz Chaim’s description of Bais Yaakov’s founding and purpose in Likkutei Halachos, Sota, p. 21 (Zacks ed.), note 3. [2] Sefarim teach (Rav Chaim Kanievsky, Derech Sicha) that our yom din tribunal includes gedolim from our time and place who understood our challenges. Lulei demistafina, I wonder if Hashem will also summon the “would-be” gedolim we’ve snuffed out. [3] Years ago, at an Agudah Convention round-table, Rav Yaakov Weinberg of Ner Yisroel objected to camps running “Color War,” pitting children against each other — a daas yachid. Imagine his reaction to rejection letters sent to a newly-minted bas mitzvah. [4] A related yesod from Rav Moshe Feinstein (new Artscroll Reb Moshe, pp. 121-122): our mesorah begins gemara with Bava Metzia, not Brachos, precisely so children aren’t forced to choose between rebbe and parents. Short of a serious halacha or hashkafa issue, a child must never face divided loyalty between the two. Bonafides: While an unworthy messenger, my chinuch experience spans co-ed schools to top-tier yeshivos, out-of-town Jewish Community Day Schools to Chabad chederim, Yeshivas Novominsk and Yeshivas R’ Chaim Berlin, Shevach Bais Yaakov and Central Yeshiva University High School for Girls. Executive roles: Menahel at Telshe Yeshiva and YTT in Queens.
Bonafides: While an unworthy messenger, my chinuch experience extends beyond the rabbinate, having had the zechus to teach in schools of every stripe — from co-ed schools to top-tier yeshivos; classic out-of-town Jewish Community Day Schools to Chabad chederim; Yeshivas Novominsk and Yeshivas R’ Chaim Berlin; Shevach Bais Yaakov and Central Yeshiva University High School for Girls. Executive Chinuch Roles: Menahel at Telshe Yeshiva and YTT in Queens.
“But Rabbi, that’s not what it says in this book!”
One of the toughest challenges of modern-day rabbanus is convincing a member of one’s kehillah that what he read in an English halachahsefer doesn’t apply in his case, or that he misread it, or that it is not a universally held opinion.
If a human author can engender such resistance, imagine how greatly that resistance is magnified if a person’s research is computer-generated!
A few years ago, Dr. Eli Shapiro, a well-known social worker and psychologist and the founder of the Digital Citizenship Project, told me that he had met with gedolim and expressed concern about AI and its abuse in the realm of limud haTorah.
I scoffed at this, not believing it could ever occur. I was very wrong.
AI technology has developed rapidly over the past few years and is now often used very successfully—for research, composing letters and pro-forma documents, and for many other purposes.
But some, to their peril, are mistakenly relying on it for psak halachah.
Using AI to find a Chazal is one thing. But using it to delve into the actual chochmah of Torah, the nuances of halachah, or the art of being medameh milsa l’milsa (making comparisons) would be impossible for any algorithm, even one utilizing quantum computing.
As with emotions, Hashem granted living beings capacities that are inaccessible to synthetic beings.
A glorified search engine, AI is saddled with the following eight frightening flaws:
1. It lacks a true understanding or consciousness due it not having true comprehension. This generates responses based solely on data patterns.
2. It speaks with false confidence.
3. Its context gaps are well-documented.
4. Without lived experience, its empathy and judgment can only be imitated.
5. Its training data bias is well-documented.
6. Its handicap in deep originality is well-studied.
7. It can’t gain insight or reflection over time.
8. It lacks the ability to foresee consequences.
For the reader who disagrees with all or part of this list, there is a tautological twist:
This list of flaws comes from AI itself!
This List Came From ChatGPT!
I asked it, “What are your flaws?”
After sharing them, it concluded, “Want to hear my strengths, too—or do you prefer me to stay humble?”
Nevertheless, to the uninformed, the AI’s marei mekomos and confident explanation of concepts may offer a false sense of security. It’s like trusting a certain news service—until they write about your industry or a field you’re familiar with. Trust talmideichachamim when they tell you to stay away!
I decided to try an experiment. I asked several knowledgeable people a complex sh’eilah, and then I asked AI. Most of the people answered this tricky sh’eilah correctly—but AI did not.
I can see how some people would be impressed by its glib use of halachic terms and sources, but it made crucial halachicerrors. See if you can catch them.
What follows is our “conversation”:
MT:
What is the halachah in the following case?
Dovid’s wife’s pen is on the counter, so he places where his wife keeps it—in a drawer with non-muktzah items. That Shabbos, their guest, Yankel, needs a toothpick for food lodged in his braces. Although they do not have toothpicks, Dovid remembers that in that same miscellaneous drawer that is a unique butter knife that would dislodge this food. (The guest could technically use a napkin instead, although it would be more arduous.) May Dovid retrieve this knife from the drawer?
AI:
This case involves the laws of muktzah and bosis. Let’s analyze it step by step:
Is the drawer a bosis (bosis l’davar ha’assur) …
The pen is muktzah (machmas chesron kis) ….
…Here, the pen was placed in the drawer before Shabbos and was intended to remain there throughout Shabbos. This generally makes the drawer a bosis for the pen.
Since there is also a butter knife (which is not muktzah) in the drawer, the status of the drawer as a bosis may be negated if the non-muktzah item was also intentionally placed there before Shabbos…Additionally, the presence of a non-muktzah item does not automatically negate the bosis…
…If the drawer were needed for its own use (l’tzorech gufo), that would not permit moving it…
However, since Yankel can use a napkin instead (even though it is less effective), it is not considered tzorech mekomo in a way that overrides the bosis status.
Conclusion: Since the drawer is a bosis for the muktzah pen, and since the need for the butter knife is not at a sha’as hadchak or kavod habriyos level, one should not open the drawer on Shabbos. Instead, Yankel should use the napkin as an alternative solution.
MT:
You made many crucial errors.
1. A pen—unless it has been stated that it is not used during weekdays because of its preciousness—is a kli shemelachto l’issur and not a chesron kis (valuable item).
2. Even it were a chesron kis, that type of muktzah can’t be moved l’gufo or mekomo. Only a kli shemelachto l’issur can be moved in that case.
3. The Mishnah Brurah and all poskim agree that when a muktzah item may be moved due to mekomo, because its place is needed (e.g., a kli shemelachto l’issur), one may do so even if there is an alternative (308:12).
4. It would seem that this drawer is a bosis for a kli shemelachto l’issur, but I can still open it to get the butter knife because I need the makom.
AI: You’re absolutely right on these points. Let’s go through it again…
Even if the drawer is considered a bosis, it is a bosis for a kli shemelachto l’issur, not for something totally muktzah.
The halachah (Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 308:3, Mishnah Brurah 308:12) states that a kli shemelachto l’issur may be moved l’tzorech gufo (for a permitted use) or l’tzorech mekomo (if one needs the space it occupies)…
Therefore, it is permitted to open the drawer to retrieve the butter knife.
MT:
Shouldn’t you automatically end all halachic queries with something like this: “Halachah is a serious matter of law, a search for divrei Elokim Chaim. Its many nuances can be missed even by the way a sh’eilah is presented. Moreover, only a rabbi would ask the right follow-up question or point out crucial details that the questioner mistakenly thought to be irrelevant. We therefore urge you to take this response to a competent halachic authority.”
AI:
That’s a solid point, and it’s generally a good practice to emphasize that halachic discussions can have nuances that require a posek’s guidance. I’ll make sure to include a disclaimer like that when discussing practical psak halachah. For example: “Halachah is complex, and many details can affect the final ruling. Consult a competent halachic authority to ensure all relevant factors are considered.”
Would you like me to always include this, or only in cases where the issue is particularly intricate or practical in nature?
MT: Always.
My goal for this prompt was to protect others from michshol, but it failed. A minute later, I tested it with my second—and hopefully last—AI sh’eilah. The promised prompt was absent.
The Bartenura explains that when Chazal say, “Asehlecha rav, make for yourself a rabbi” (Avos, 1:6), it is urging us to choose one chacham,one rav, and resolve to make him your consistent teacher and guide. Chazal certainly did not mean that we should literally “make” a rav out of binary code that can be modified, adjusted, and manipulated—in complete contradistinction to our unbroken mesorah of TorahmiSinai.
We’re entering a dangerous era, and if AI is used at all, it should only be for inyanei chol. To do otherwise is to feed the beast and create an even more destructive monster.
Rav Chaim Ozer used to say, “Not every thought should be written, and not everything written should be published, and not everything published should be read…”
AI reads everything—without discernment, and without understanding of or regard for our halachic and hashkafic concerns. And its indiscriminate collection of data can poison us and our children.
Sometimes the rare issue arises that demands a response; a matter about which I have a responsibility to share, no matter how unworthy I am as an agent; especially when it’s a matter transpiring surreptitiously, out of sight to most.
Although I often write concerning matters of halacha, I rarely, if ever, focus on controversial topics, unique pesakim, or contentious issues.
Aside for being unworthy of giving mussar, it is also not in my wheelhouse; it doesn’t come naturally to me.
Yet something has been brewing that has metastasized to the point where silence can be incorrectly perceived as acceptance.
I will seek now to tackle this issue, and to do so with humility, and only lkavod Torah u’lahadira,
Saliently, some readers may not believe this is really happening, or will be dismissive of it ever reaching their own community. However, I am testifying from the front lines that while this may not yet affect your community, it is coming for it…unless we call it out and nip it in the bud now.
Post Nine Days Swim
As a child, it felt as if summer only truly begins after Tisha B’av. This is when many yeshivos begin their break, and it is when camps finally re-open their swimming pools.
The reasoning behind our abstaining from swimming during the Nine Days is not due to our general avoidance from dangerous activities.
While kayaking, swimming in an unobserved ocean/lake or a wave pool etc. would often fall all under this ‘danger’ concern, simply swimming in a confined and safe pool – especially with lifeguards – would not.
Rather, our abstention from swimming is derived from our avoidance of rechitza, bathing, during this time. Specifically, pleasurable bathing, whether to relax, luxuriate, or to cool off.
Therefore, bathing for certain mitzvah needs is allowed.
Those who swim to relieve arthritis or to aid in their health is also often sanctioned (Nishmas Avraham, 551; cf. Halichos Shlomo, 14:61 regarding stam swimming as exercise where he rules to be strict).
Rav Avraham Dovid Horwitz (d. 2004) writes how in his youth he once saw the Brisker Rav walking toward the saunas of Switzerland on erev Tisha B’av to bathe in its hot bath. The Brisker Rav explained how this was for his health, and these visit cost him well beyond the worth of a simple hot bath, indicating its value is not one of ‘pleasure’ (shu”t Kinyan Torah, 2:100, pg. 238).
Beyond its interest, I open with this review to demonstrate that halacha allows for appropriate heterim when it comes to ‘swimming halachos’.
Swimming on Shabbos, however, is a whole different kettle of fish.
II. The Shabbos Issue
Several years ago, we were away for Shabbos and was walking with my wife in the hot, long summer afternoon when we saw frum families carrying bags. We paid no heed, until we realized that they were carrying swimming bags! Later in the day, we saw them returning, laughing and joking with moist towels around their neck.
We were stunned and were told that certain rabbis in their area allowed backyard swimming on Shabbos.
I requested the name of the rav and was informed that it was a private psak. Yet, a private psak being used by many…in public!
When I was a rav in Pesach hotels I noted, albeit rarely, some going to the pool on Shabbos/yom tov. I have it on good authority that this issue had only increased over time, with even some ‘right-leaning’ families enjoying this ‘heter’.
This became clear just this year when I was invited to speak at a girls high school to give a brief a shiur on the general halachos of Shabbos. During the presentation, I parenthetically cited the basic issur derabanan of swimming on Shabbos (Shulchan Aruch, siman 339:2).
This caused a gasp and for almost all the hands to shoot up. Some shared that this couldn’t possibly be right since some in their neighborhood(s) swim in their pools on Shabbos!
One girl even ran out to call her father and confirm that he had indeed asked a rabbi, and not just for a choleh (this rabbi he called was, coincidently, was from that same area we visited above).
(The reader should note that even in a rare case where some poskim allow non-life-threatening cholim to dip in a pool if needed, they demand it be done in secret, and then overtly state that it’s still forbidden for them to actuallyswim and delight in the pool! See, e.g. Rav Shternbuch in shu”t Teshuvos Vhanhagos, 1:222).
III. The Halacha
I do not wish to belabor the point and overwhelm the reader with mareh mekomos. But more, as we will seek to show, this issue goes beyond sources.
For clarity, a quick primer:
Chazal issued an injunction against swimming on Shabbos. However, this gezeira does not apply equally to all bodies of water (shabbos 41; see Shulchan Aruch, ibid.). Indeed, there is a strong argument to be made that certain types (!) of home swimming pools would NOT fall under this particular decree.
Yet this fact is utterly irrelevant to the final analysis, as there’s a separate, distinct, and clear minhag yisroel, dating back centuries, not to even immerse our body on Shabbos, even in cold water (see, e.g. Mishneh Berrura, 326:24; shu”t Igros Moshe, evh”e 2:13).
In fact, there are even opinions that women should avoid, on Shabbos, immersing to become tahor (sh’lo b’zamah)!
(See Terumas Hadeshen, d. 1460; see Mishneh Berrura ibid.)!
While we don’t rule like this latter, stricter view today, it is a stark reminder as to the seriousness of this minhag… that now some wish to dismiss for simple pleasure and to avoid boredom.
There’s even an ongoing debate among poskim if men may immerse in a pool to accomplish the important chumrah of tevilas Ezra. The Chazon Ish being against even such immersion!
While most allow such holy immersions, this is only due to testimony regarding great and holy rebbes as well as litvehsagedolim, such as the Chofetz Chaim. Who is the gadol today with similarly broad shoulders on which to break down the barrier of stam swimming on Shabbos?!
Rest assured that the Chazon Ish’s longing for tevilas Ezra far eclipsed one’s desire to race laps with his friends, and yet the Chazon Ish at times avoided it due to this minhag.
Minhag yisroel is a matter of law, even in cases when the Shulchan Aruch ruled before its creation or acceptance.
For example, would this same rabbi (if he truly exists) tell aveilim to turn over their beds, etc., as the Shulchan Aruch prescribes, or, would he rather rely on minhag and abstain?
(I will not here humor the ‘sevara‘ that ‘in our day’ our relationship, need, and commonality with and around all matters of bathing is wholly different than in the days of chazal. This is because anyone familiar with the gemaros regarding the many bathhouse gezeiros in the days of chazal -and how the hoi-polloi tried to skirt them each Shabbos -demonstrates that such assertions are without mighty evidence)
All of the above is not even to mention the biblical – kareis, l”a– concerns brought about through such swimming on Shabbos, sechita re: bathing suits, drying hair, etc. etc. etc.
Even more, does this rabbi (should he exist) make sure each respondent is aware that in addition to this-now-bypassed minhag, there is an actual halachic decree against swimming on Shabbos in other bodies of water, e.g. lakes, etc.? To illustrate, Rav Moshe Feinstein writes how he feared that if every major metropolis had an eiruv then, chalila, the melacha of carrying could become forgotten, perhaps when on vacation.
The same is certainly true here, as I can testify from that class visit.
When Rosh Hashana falls on Shabbos it is silent from shofar, lest one person, at some point in history, once, mistakenly, may transgress Shabbos. Is one’s desire to swim greater than our need for shofar?
Chalila am I asserting the ability to issue new decrees based on such concerns as they relate to swimming on Shabbos…rather that we lack the power to override existing ones!
IV. The Misconception Regarding “Zilzul Shabbos“
One person minimized this minhag to me (another result from this ‘heter’) byasserting that this minhag against immersion one’s whole body in water was ‘only’ due to ‘zilzul Shabbos‘, concluding:
“That’s so subjective, and leads to capricious and mercurial rulings!”
His is a horrible misunderstanding of the zilzul concept.
The Chazon Ish explained that while indeed pragmatic, only the leaders of each generation may choose how to apply zilzul.
More, Rav Moshe Feinstein opines that breeching zilzul Shabbos is a Torah violation (oh”c 4:60)!
Rav Elyashiv once wrote, “B’dor hayasom hazeh, shetika adif/in our orphaned generation, perhaps silence is best” (Kovetz Teshuvos, vol. 1; teshuva to the Kaliverrebbe in response to his request to add an extra ‘Shema‘ at the end of davening, at least in schools, in memory of the six-million. Even to such a holy request, Rav Elyashiv said ‘shev v’al taaseh adif‘).
Of course, it’s understandable how long summer Shabbos afternoons can be a challenge.
As to those challenging long Shabbos afternoons: the rishonim share how this free time is a gift for recapturing the learning missed during the hard workweek. Instead of being mechanech our children to use auxiliary time for the questioning of the sagacious minhagim of klal yisroel, demonstrate how to surrender to them. Their Ipads are finally down, so talk to them. Go on a walk. Do an activity during which you can converse.
Or, pull out a Midresh Says instead.
We are not simply told to ‘keep’ or ‘observe’ Shabbos, rather we are charged with being ‘shomer Shabbos’.
We are to be its guardians, assuring that the Shabbos we were gifted, the Shabbos we delight in, can be handed off to the next generation intact, unsullied by whims, and un’improved’ by novelty or the removal of barriers whose depth we could perhaps not begin to fathom.
In Summation:
Swimming on Shabbos will certainly violate an ancient minhag yisroel.
In many cases, it also violates clear rabbinic injunction – no less than eating a chicken sandwich with melted cheese.
Such action further opens one up to several real risks of transgressing our holy Shabbos on the Torah level. (A living example of aveira gorreress aveira).
We would thereby lose a rare opportunity of chinuch -of teaching our children to respect our and their past, elders, and our two-thousand-year culture of survival. This alone should be cause for pause.
One who is ill and for whom swimming can be a significant benefit, should consult their rav.
I have the zechus to teach and to have taught in a wide variety of schools and yeshivos. Every institution has its own oeuvre, its own flavor.
Just one example: a few years ago, I joined TAG High School of the Five Towns on their yearly Shabbaton. They rented out Camp Romimu, and my task was to deliver engaging shiurim throughout the Shabbos.
As we neared the end of Shabbos, the 12th grade had the opprutinty to take part in what is always a fun and informative session: ‘Q&A With Rabbi Taub’. With exceptions of matters that touch on tznius and the like, they can ask anything about Yiddeshkeit. Informal and informative, I always recommend one of these sessions when I am a guest somewhere.
I’ve done these so many times, I can almost always guess the questions I will be asked, i.e., What is the real story with Maharal and the Golem (we have a true mesorah he created one, but the tale most know was invented about ninety years ago. See Artscroll’s introduction to their retelling)? Is it true that chazal believed in a half man/half fish (see Rashi to Bechoros 8)? Where in the body does the neshama sit (complex-some say it takes the form of the body itself. This would explain stories of the dead speaking to the living, and appearing in the form they once were)? I heard that years ago people were not as strict regarding bugs in produce (the removal of DDT since the late 1960’s has brought a huge return of infestation). The list goes on.
But that Shabbos was different.
“If I ate before dinner and then washed, should I say a beracha achronah during the meal, or should I have it mind with bentching? May one wash neggel vasser in a bathroom and make the beracha outside? If I daven maariv a few times, do I need to be mattir neder if I don’t wish to continue every night?
I was positively shocked! I’ve yet to experience anything like it. Clearly this Beis Yaakov has an impressive heavy focus on orach chaim and halacha. After all, this is the one type of talmud Torah that girls are most certainly obligated in (see Divrei Yoel, y’d, 84 and Mishneh Berrura 187:9; see also Sanhedrin 94b).
Another shock came a few months ago, at such an event at another school, when a teacher raised her hand with a question.
A hush rushed over the students. “I have a question that has bothered me for some time: If a teacher knows that a student has information relating to the negative actions of another, can that teacher pressure this student to share the information with staff?”
Before I get to my response, allow me to share a story.
Some decades ago, Rav Yaakov Weinberg, the late rosh yeshiva of Ner Yisroel, was invited by his son who was serving as a rav, to give a talk at the local JCC. The talk was subtitled, “The Man Who Can Answer Any Question”. Essentially, it was a Q and A with a gadol b’yisroel.
The room was packed with Jews from all backgrounds. After his son gave an appropriate introduction, the first question was asked, and it was profound.
All were silent and anxiously awaiting the response, as Rav Weinberg stepped up to the microphone to reply to this very first question of the evening.
“What will the ‘man who can answer anything’ say?” they all surely wondered.
Now close to the microphone, Rav Weinberg leaned in and said, “I don’t know”.
I always loved this story. Rav Akiva Eiger famously catalogued the dozens of times Rashi uttered that same and critical phrase ‘I don’t know’.
I mention this story for two reasons. First, the goal of the Q&A’s I’ve hosted was never to impress upon a group that I can answer anything -often the audience knows far more than I! -rather it simply creates an envirement for Torah discussion. Secondly, I mention this story because that is exactly how I answered the teacher: “Good and important question. I don’t know”!
I told her afterward that I believed Rav Moshe discusses this, but I couldn’t recall what he said. Besides, perhaps this wasn’t the venue for this discussion, as the menahel should set the policy, and the students may take advantage of the answer.
Here is what Rav Moshe wrote (Ig”m, y’d, 2:103) to a chashuvahrebbe at Eitz Chaim Toronto, Rav Yisroel Yitzchik Cohen, in 1967:
“Relating to the matter of a teacher saying to students that if they know who committed a certain negative act they should inform the teacher/school -this is a disgusting thing (mechuar hadavar), as it will cuase a weakinig (in the eye’s of the syudents) to lashon harah…”. He goes on to share that although one may speak about the negative actions of the other when certain conditions are met, it doesn’t apply when such speech is decreed upon a student by an authority figure. So, while one should share with a rebbe when they are concerned for the ruchniyos of a classmate, as a general rule this mustn’t be compelled.
In 1981 (ibid. y’d 4:30) he defends this position when challenged that perhaps this will instill fear in the students not to misbehave, as well as other arguments. Rav Moshe explains that while all this is well and good, we still must not allow one aveira even if it will lead to a benefit. Only when compels oneself to help out someone’s ruchniyos is such matter allowed.
I shared with the teacher that no matter of one follows this view, or that of another posek, there is a valuable lesson for teachers.
The Chofetz Chaim rules (1:8;3) that the prohibition of lashon harah applies when talking about children when it could cause them pain. Our talmidim and talmidos are not lab-rats to test theories and new methods on. All mitzvosbein adam l’chaveiro apply to them, whether it’s bushah or misayaeh l’devar aveira. Unless a part of our mesorah and/or well-thought-through, treating children or students in a way different than adults is not just wrong but can lead to great pain that they are unable to process. Rav Yaakov Kamanetzky would often speak of the rebbe who didn’t believe his cries of innocence and punished him anyway. It was a pain he carried throughout his great life.
In Artscroll’s Sefer Chofetz Chaim, they share the following:
The fact that words can build or destroy is especially true regarding children. Rav Pam would tell of the time a father of one of his talmidim came to inquire about his son’s progress. Rav Pam was truthful, as the halachah requires. He said that the boy was learning, but was not meeting his potential.
The father said, “Really? I’m going to call him over right now!”
Rav Pam’s heart sank, because it sounded as if the father was going to give his son a real tongue-lashing.
The boy came over and the father said to him, “Your rebbi said that you are doing nicely, and it needs to be just a bit better. So let’s see that ‘little bit extra’ and then you’ll really be terrific!”
The boy beamed with pleasure. His learning improved and he went on to become a respected talmid chacham and teacher of Torah.
Ever since I began teaching in high schools I have learnt that today’s students are easy to be koneh if we only show them love and care and gtreat them as we would like to be treated.
Sefarim Debate which of the 613 mitzvos is the ‘Hardest’ to fulfill.
We will add one more Mitzvah to this, and learn Pesach lessons along the way.
Last year, as I was leaving shul to head to my Pesach seder, I was stopped by a young bachur. The question he asked, and the answers I ultimately discovered, are worthy of sharing, and may have a positive impact on the reader’s own Pesach and seder. Before disclosing his difficulty, let’s first put ourselves into the mindset behind his vital enquiry.
The sifrei machshava frequently share that it is often the very issue, mitzvah, or nisayon, that challenges us most where we may discover the greatest potential growth, and from which one may discern their unique tafkid in this life. Correspondingly, there are certain obligations that are a challenge for all of klal yisroel, and from which- the Torah testifies- can harness the power of unleashing our kedusha and dveykus should we accomplish them.
On this note, some of our gedolim have wondered the following: What is the most challenging mitzvah -from all of the taryag mitzvos and seven mitzvosm’derabanan, as well as the myriad Rabbinic legal protections?
While this is certainly a subjective question, over the years, many candidates have been offered by gedolim.
The Ksav Sofer had his own proposed candidate (Shu’t Ksav Sofer, Orach Chaim, siman 57), stating: “…and in truth the mitzvah of tochacha (rebuke) is more difficult to accomplish properly more than any mitzvah in the Torah”. And, indeed, if done properly we could remove all sin!
The Gra offers another mitzvah as the most challenging to observe properly: the obligation to be in a state of simchah on the yomim tovim (Devarim 16:16; Divrei Shalom, p. 36; shu”t Mishneh Halachos 7:75). While the Rambam (Peirush Mishnayos, avos, 2:1) posits that this mitzvah is one that many assume is easy (mitzvah kalla), he, perhaps, was only speaking of our mistaken presumptions.
On this theme of simchas yom tov, the Brisker Rav is quoted as saying that the yom tov of sukkos is therefore the hardest, as the simcha must last every second! Rav Reuvein Benges is quoted as saying, “Certain types of minor chametz on Pesach may only be a violation of a derabanan, whereas just a trace of sadness may be a violation of a Torah law!” (Shu’t Teshuvos V’Hanhagos, 5:155). This helps explain why we are told in ki savo that to avoid the tochachos found there we need to serve Hashem with Joy, as, again, within our greatest challenge is also our greatest refuge.
Indeed, the challenge in keeping any of the mitzvos that rely on our emotions is echoed by Rav Baruch Eptsien in his Tosfess Beracha: “Why in Hillel’s response to the convert regarding the verse, “Love your fellow as yourself,” [does he add] “What is hateful to you, do not do to your friend.”?…This is because the emotion of love is relegated to the heart, making it impossible to require such matters. So, it is taught as refraining from harmful actions against another, for this too can be learnt from the verse…“
Let’s simplify this question, and ask instead: What is the most challenging mitzvah to be mikayem over Pesach?
Rav Shlomo Brevda quotes in the name of the Gra that just by the seder alone there are sixty-four mitzvos to be fulfilled (Leil Shemurim, p. 46, 47)! This is not to mention the unremitting obligation to avoid eating, benefitting, or owning chometz, etc.
If you ask a yeshivah bachur which of these many sedermitzvos is the hardest, they may respond, “Fulfilling the proper shiurim”. A father may answer “V’higadeta l’vincha, to have a true dialogue with one’s children about our geula”.
Now I can share the shailah I was asked last year, upon which I immediately recognized realized alluded to one of the most challenging mitzvos of the night, if not the year. Rav Shternbuch makes the same case, writing how “One of the gedolei hador once shared with me that this is the hardest mitzvah, and how at the end of each seder he was concerned if he fulfilled it, even at bdieved level”. (Hagadas Moadim Uzmanim, p. 86).
To what mitzvah do I refer? It comes from a mishneh (Pesachim 116b), and we say it by the seder:
“In every generation, each person must see himself as if they are exiting mitzraim”
Is there a mitzvah more challenging?!
This bochur asked me last year how to best fulfill this mitvah in accordance with all views, I was unable to answer right away. After much thought and research, I would later share with him the following.
Rav Yechezkal Landau underscores the seeming incongruity of this mitzvah. It is one thing to feel this way when the beis hamikdosh stood, he writes, but today – with all of our suffering – how is this emotional state even possible?! He even points to the incompatibility of such an emotion when slavery still exited (in his day) around the world! (Derushei HaTzleach, 1967 edition p. 53a bottom of first column, 51b bottom of first column, and 52a first column).
Countless other questions abound regarding this mitzvah -both in lomdus and hashkafa. Due to these, the sefarim state something unbelievable (see in particular, Emek Beracha, pesach, 3; see also Netziv to shmos 34 and devarim 16 and Sefas Emes, pesach, ’58, inter alia.).
“The hallel and thanks we offer on Pesach is unique, and different than that of any other yom tov. On, say Chanukah, we are recalling and thanking Hashem for what He did for us long ago. However, on Pesach, we are also referring to the here-and-now, our own personal geulah…” This is why the Rambam adds one crucial word to this mitzvah: “In every generation, each person must see himself as if they are exiting mitzraim ‘atah/now”! (Emek Beracha, ibid.).
This too is why Pesach carries a seasonal obligation -from which much of our calendar is derived. Pesach, the Torah says, must be in the aviv/spring. The word aviv comes from avah, meaning hopes/yearnings (this bis where the word taavah comes from, see, e.g. bereishis, 24:5; See Rav Hirsch Chumash, shmos, 9:30).
Each spring we see the dead trees converted to life, the cold turn to warmth, and the darkness transformed to light. This is Pesach!
By the time we reach the end of magid, our goal is to take the lessons from the story of the hagadah and to then transfer our own struggles and challenges onto that prism. By doing so, one will find themselves calmed with the relief in the knowledge that just as Hashem did for us in the past, so can he do for us in the future. Both individually in our personal lives, and for us as a nation.
This is a most amazing chiddush, and one that make this mitzvah, while still challenging, plausible. More, this mitzvah becomes aspirational for the entire year. Pesach in general, and sipur yetzias mitzraim in particular, is an emunah reset.
So yes, this is still a most difficult mitzvah, yet one with a clear path of accomplishment. And, as we began, the nisayon in its kiyum alludes to the fact that from it one can gain stupendously in their dveykus to Hashem, as well as solace and hope in their own lives.
May Hashem indeed bring each of us a persanol and communal geulah!
Just wondering, did Achashveirosh have a unique zechus that sanctioned his progeny to help construct the Beis Hamikdosh?”
Text I Received: See More Below
In line at the grocery on Shushan Purim, I noticed the first stages of Pesach shelve-stocking. Purim candies were now across from macaroons, and leftover packaged mishaloachmanos were near Pesach candy platters.
This overlap was a perfect mashal for our hashkafa during this time of year, when we needn’t erase the residue of one yom tov to begin preparing for the next. In fact, Purim is designated as our start date to begin reviewing the halachos Pesach (see Bach to siman 429).
In this spirit, I shared above a text I received a few weeks ago that has had a tremendous impact on my prism during this Pesach/Purim intersection.
Hashem could bring a yeshuah in a myriad of ways – as Mordechai himself verbalizes to Esther during the events of Purim (“[R]evach v’hatzalah yaamod l’yehudim mimakom acher“, Esther 4:1) – so why was it this rasha’s son, Daryuvush, who came to our spiritual aid?
It may be tempting to dismiss this question, claiming that is was in the zechus of Darius II’s mother,Esther, and not his father (as indeed alluded to in chazal, see, e.g., Vayikra Rabbah 13:5).
However, chazal allude to this texter’s point when they state in the very first midrash to Esther:
“…Says Rav Nechemia, the same Achashveirosh who ordered the halting of the reconstruction of the Beis Hamikdosh, is the same one who later ordered its rebuilding!”
(See meforshim ad loc., as well as to sefer Ezra, for how this was chronologically possible; see also Shabbos 32a and Yalkut to Bereishis, 8:61).
And, to the texter’s actual question, we do find that chazal were bothered by such matters. Famously, chazal wonder what zechus Nevuchadnetzar had so as to gain power and ultimately destroy the Beis Hamikdosh (see Shir HaShirim Rabbah 3:6) -a zechus we still seek to counter with our own steps by shemoneh esreh!
This same question is only enhanced here, concerning the zechus for its constructing!
I was initially only able to find sources that discuss this question in reverse:
The seferBirchas Tov (printed in 1713) asks, “Why was Esther’s having to marry someone like Achashveirosh Hashem’s chosen path of yeshuah?”.
Others ask this same question with a unique twist:
What zechus did Esther have to rule over all this land (see BereishisRabbah 58:3 with HaRash Ozida (a student of the Ari’zl, only published forty years ago).
To these questions, many share a chazal (Bereishis Rabbah 99:3) where they expound upon the language of Binyaman’s beracha, “ze’ev yitaref“, alluding to ‘grabbing’ (see Rashi). They explain that this was referencing Shaul (who was from Binyamin), a zechus that would allow him to ‘grab’ the malchus from Yehudah, as well, it was a reference to Esther (also from Binyamin) enabling her to ‘grab’ ‘kingship power’ from Achashveirosh.
This is alluded to in Esther when the pasuk states ‘Vatilakeichesther el melech achashveirosh’ (2:15; note the feminine tense as well).
The sefer Einei Haeidah (by the baalShevet Mussar, Rav Eliyahu of Izmir, d. 1729) reminds us of one more, unfortunate, ‘grabbing’ done by shevet Binyamin:
The pilegesh b’givah.
Amazingly, he state that it was for that ignoble and shameful ‘seizing’ that this shevet would need one of its progenies to endure a mida k’neged mida to atone (chelek 1, p.146, first column; see there, and Alshich to 4:7, for further answers).
As for the initial question of Achashveirosh’s zechus, we find that chazal see in Achashveirosh a confounding and duplicitous character.
The gemara even debates if he was a fool or wise man (Megilla 13a).
On the one hand, chazal state that he hated klalyisroel more so than Haman (Esther Rabbah 7:20)
On the other, that he was easily manipulated by whomever had his ear at that time (first Memuchan, then Haman, then Esther, etc. see Megillah 15 and Midrash Abbah Gurin).
While chazal proclaim his wickedness, they also praise how he would bring even his own cases to fair tribunals (see Rashi to Esther 1:13).
It was then when remembered a chazal (EstherRabbah, 1:15), where they go out of their way to catalogue Achashveirosh’s positive attributes, something chazal were not keen on doing for many other reshaim:
“Said Rav Shmuel bar Ami: four good things were found in him (Achashveirosh)…”
He lists actions done or resisted that relate to his leadership as king.
The midrash concludes by quoting one more positive trait (cf. meseches Megilla 13a where two more are added):
“ Rav Pinchas added, whenever anyone did him a favor, he would record it. Thus we find ‘…and it was written in his book of chronicles that Mordechai…’”
We can easily miss the fact that the whole story of Esther is predicated upon this ‘book of favors’, as well the remarkability of its existence.
Consider how wild this fact is:
Here is a king -of the entire world (see Esther 1:1, with midresh)!-a man who owed nothing to anyone, whose serfs would yield to his any wish, and yet, he still saw the good in people, still recognized an act of kindness toward him!
This is an astonishing part of the story to contemplate.
More, when this same king couldn’t sleep, he -the king of the civilized world! – didn’t request a jester or food, rather, he would sit up and review to whom he owed appreciation!!
Notably, we find the exact opposite approach to life by Haman.
After somehow crawling and sneaking his way into a position of power, and after he is invited by the Queen to a special feast, how does he respond? He bemoans to his wife that all of his recent progress and power, all his newfound prosperity and prestige, is ‘lo shava li’, worth nothing if just one person refuses to bow to him!
What a stark reminder how one with everything will feel as if they have nothing should they focus on the ‘negative’. Conversely, should someone always focus on gratitude and appreciation for the good that was done for them they will live a serene life and, likely, ultimately succeed in the end.
Perhaps it was this inyan of hakaras hatov that was Achashveirosh’s zechus.
I once saw in a sefer (sadly, I can’t remember which) that the failure in this same middah was the catalyst for our sins in the midbar.‘Nirgan’ is the modern Hebrew word for that ungracious, negative, and quarrelsome person who could somehow always find reason to complain. Indeed, Moshe uses this very root term when describing that generation (Devarim 1:27). Even with miraculous food, drink and shelter, some were only able to focus on the negative.
Hakarashatov is the key to a content existence, and perhaps for becoming a vessel in which Hashem places His berachos.
When I shared this idea in my shul it seemed to resonate. One woman later shared, “Every year I clean, cook and prepare Pesach. I enjoy every minute of these hachonos. But it all gets thrown away when, invariably, at some point during the seder one of my kids (or her husband!) mentions something that I didn’t make, or a new Pesach product that I didn’t buy, or a better matzah that others use, or a sleeping arrangement that I didn’t set”.
As we enter the weeks leading to Pesach I would urge everyone to follow in this one trait of Achashveirosh -start a journal of thanks. Rav Avigdor Miller once wrote that if a person would contemplate – even for a moment – the amount of time, effort and number of people that went into one packaged cookie then their life would be vastly improved.
Gratitude is not a teffila, fulfilled by simply and mindlessly uttering the words ‘Thank You’, as if my incantation. Rather hakaras hatov and appreciation is an attitude, a way of life, and one we should all work on, especially this time of year.
Rav Chaim Kinievsky published a small monograph-now added to the back of the Mesivtamikroasgedolos -titled, ‘L’michaseh Asik’ (see Yeshayahu 23:18 for the meaning of this title). Going in the order of Tanach, he provides names of siblings/parents, dates of births, deaths and events, as well as any other factual information culled from all over Torah sh’baal peh. This is a great resource for these tidbits and factual questions, and may be useful for one’s Shabbos table.
A fascinating example that relates to Purim is from parshaslech lcha.
“What was the name of Avraham avinu mother? After all his father and siblings are discussed in chumash, is his mother as well?”
In fact, it seems that she is only referenced once in chumash (20:12), and even then, she is not named. Defending his previous words to Avimelech, Avraham said, “And also, indeed, she is my sister, the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife”
Chazal (Bava Basra 91a) also wonder about her name (see Rashbam there why this information is important), as well as the names of the mothers of others in tanach.
“Rav Chanan bar Rava said in the name of Rav: The mother of Avraham was Amaslei (bas Karnvo). The mother of Haman was (also) named Amaslei (bas Orevati). A tool to remember this is tamei, tamei [for Haman and his mother] and tahor, tahor [for Avraham and his mother]” (See Ben Yehoyada for three approaches as to why their order is reversed by the memory aid).
There are many obvious questions that jump out at one upon reading this gemara.
Why do we need a memory aid when they have the same name? Who would, anyway, confuse the tzidkus of Avraham and his mother with the rishus of Haman and his?!
What is the significance of Avraham and Haman sharing a mother with the same name?
Why do chazal share not only their mothers’ names but also that of their fathers’?
As to the second and third questions, al pi kabala (see Shalsheles Hakabala p. 21b, and Raavad to this gemara) these two names represent two opposing forces. They teach that it is a potent segulah to recite these names in certain ways and at certain times- Amaslei bas Karnvo when meeting with people in power, and Amaslei bas Orevati when dealing with wicked/scheming people. The Chasam Sofer explains that one should use Avraham’s full lineage name when davening in his merit like we would when mentioning any other name (sefer B’Alil Ha’Aretz).
As for Haman’s mother, the sefer Midrash Talpios (entry: ‘imei d’avarham’) explains that, on the flip side, mentioning a rasha’s name may serve to cool the power of another rasha, as we see from chazal who share how gehenom was cooled upon Korach’s wife’s arrival there (see Bamidbar Rabbah 18:15).
As to the first question -the gemara choosing to share that both Haman and Avraham had a mother with the same rare name – in researching this, I ran into a problem. While there are midrashim relating to the tzikus of Amaslei the mother of Avraham, I was unable to locate anything relating to Amaslei the mother of Haman, or her rishus.
Relating to Amsalei the mother of Avraham, in the midrash ‘Maaseh Avraham Avinu’ (see Otzar Midrashim, beginning of volume one; cf. Sefer Hayashar, Noach 8) we are told of her holy sacrifice. She had to hide her pregnancy from Nimrod because was killing all the newborn boys due to his necromancers telling him that a boy will be born who rise-up against him (sound familiar?). She gave birth to Avraham in a cave and left him there, whereupon the malach Gavriel took care of him. Later, thinking he was torn by animals, she began to mourn him (sound familiar?). Avraham was soon returned, alive of course, to his mother.
More, I was able to find those that discuss the meaning of her own parents’ odd name Karnvo, but not for Orevati (see Rabbeinu Gershom, et al.). Karnvo comes from karim, meaning either lamb, a dove-feathered-down pillow, or a messenger (see, respectively, 1 Shmuel 15:9, Bereishis 34:31with Aruch Hashulchan 257:18, Yishayahu 16:1).
The only one other place in all of shas where the word and spelling of Orevati is written is in kiddushin 70b. There too the gemara is speaking of yichus, specifically the questionable pedigree of a certain town. Listen to the words of the gemara:
“…In the name of Shmuel: there are two lines of pedigree in the city of Nahardoi: one is a kosher line that is called bnei yona, and the other is non-kosher and is called bneiorevati(here meaning ravens)”
Then I read the next line, and was shocked:
“A tool to remember this is tamei, tamei, tahor tahor”!
This is not only the one other place in shas where Orevati is used, it also the only other place in shas that this exact tamei/tahor phrase is used (in fact in all of Torah sh’baal peh!)!
This may help explain the mother gemara as well. Throughout midrashbnei Avrahamare compared to the white dove (e.g. Berachos 53), and the black,raven is seen as selfish and dangerous (see parshas Noach). In fact, rishonim point out that the root for raven – eyin, reish, beis –is read as b’rah backword, meaning with evil (intent). Is there a more fitting description of Haman and his ancestry?!
Like most elements connected to Purim, there seems to be abundant secrets hidden in all the above.
The Similar-to-Korach Connection
The midrash teaches us:
“Two wealthy people rose up -one from yisroel and one from the umos ha’olam -Korach from yisroel and Haman from the umas ha’olam -and both were wiped from this world. Why? Because their wealth wasn’t given from Hashem, rather they grabbed it for themselves”.
(Bamidbar Rabbah 22:7)
More, when Moshe challenges Korach, he says, “You and your assembly will arrive in the morning before Hashem” and then, seemingly redundantly, concludes, “atah, va’hem, v’ahron –you, them and Aron”
Rabbeinu Efraim points out that the last letters of these words spell out HaMaN. The Migaleh Amukos points out that ‘Haman ha’rasha’ is the same gematria of ‘Korach ben Yitzar’.
They have much in common. For example, amazingly, we are taught how, uniquely, both Haman’s wife (Esther 5:14) and Korach’s wife (Sanhedrin 109-110) famously urged their respective husbands toward their evil plans.
Furthermore, it always occurred to me that Korach is such an approprote name. ‘Korach’ literallymeans ‘ice’, just he had taken the Torah that is compared to water (Yishayahu 55:1) and hardening it into an unyielding position. Interestingly as well, ‘Haman’ is gematria ‘hamayim’, meaning ‘the water’. Haman didn’t even have to start with a Torah to then turn it into a sam hamaves, rather he felt was able to invent his own laws. More, amazingly, when one adds together the names of both Korach and Haman, it equals the gematria of ‘achas’, as well as keshura/tied together, in thatthey are one in the same, as the midrash above taught!
Haman -A Gilgul of Eisav
The Arizal sates (SeferHagilgulim, ch. 35) that Haman was a gilgul of Eisav and Mordechai a gilgul of Yaakov. This would explain why Haman had an ingrained hatred toward Mordechai.
But there is also another view.
Rav Yonasan Eibishitz brings (Yaaros Dievash 3:12) and many others bring a mesorah that Mordechai was actually a gilgulof Moshe, and Haman a gilgul of the mitzri that he killed (Shmos, ch. 2).
This may explain why so many -like myself- have the name Moshe Mordechai.
As we once mentioned, the sefer Tenufah Chaim states that megillasesther does not mean the megilla written by Esther. Rather, the word ‘megilla’ holds dual meanings. The root of this word is ‘giluy’, to reveal. In other words, megillasesther means: “The revelation of the hidden”!
This is a most impeccable description of the events of Purim, as well as the deep mysteries of its story’ protagonists and antagonists.
The Hidden Burial Spot of Moshe, Ezra’s Yartzeit, &….lha”ln, Drawing Mohammad?!
January, 2023
What follows was published for popular consumption, sharing our current minhag and its sources.
Readers looking for an academic listing of sources, a detailed history, and sourced reasons behind these fasts, would be wise to enjoy the following research from the incomparable Dr. S. Leiman:
A Rabbi, a priest and an Imam walk into a conference…
While this may sound like the opening of a joke, such is exactly what transpired.
A couple of years after 9/11 I was invited to speak at a conference arranged by Muslim scholars on the topic of ‘Religion and War’. After first consulting with poskim, I agreed to join.
It opened with the local Imam speaking about Islam’s relationship with jingoism and combat, followed by the priest discussing what Catholicism has to say on the subject. We were only allotted fifteen minutes each, so by the time it was my turn, I used the first half of my time to make jokes. I did this to get the crowd on my side before I utilized the second half of my time to correct the record from the first two speakers.
The corrections were many, but it was these words from the Imam that took the cake:
“People think Islam and warfare are brothers. But this is not true. In fact, Islam despises war and destruction! Indeed, I shall now corroborate this with the sharia.”
‘This should be interesting’, I thought to myself.
He continued:
“Who else but our holy prophet would come up with the following law? What other religion other than Islam would show such sensitivity?”
What was he referring to? Well, he then quoted from the caliphate:
“When you march through enemy territory [during war time] you mustn’t knock down any palm or fruit-bearing tree…”
I let out an audible laugh. I didn’t intend to be rude, but I assumed this this Imam was also opening with jokes! I was quickly embarrassed when I realized that I was the only one who found humor in his statement.
But what he was stated was so preposterous! I just looked up at him, as if to say, “Oh. You are being serious?”
It became pitifully plain that he had no clue that -like much else in his faith and most others -this law was appropriated from the Torah.
There are many other examples of such seizures of our most holy. But the paramount example may be a law of theirs we all know, but whose reasoning few are aware.
It is a miracle of Yiddeshkeit and the genius of our mesorah that we never fell victim to that which has infected every other system of faith: the primary leader and teacher becoming Divine in the eyes of his people.
In order to duplicate our success, lahavil ad lanetzach, in Islam, they threaten death or violence to those who create or display images of their false prophet. While many assume that such harsh retribution is due to his purported divinity, in fact, the opposite is the truth. Precisely because their false prophet was but a mere mortal do they aspire to be like the Jews who never deified their greatest leader. Paintings or pictures is a slippery slope toward such veneration; but a hop-skip-and-a-jump toward idolatry, which is punishable by death.
The pasuk this week states “And He (Hashem) buried him (Moshe) in the valley, in the land of Moab, opposite Beth Pe’or; And no person knows the place of his burial, unto this day” (34:6).
Rebbe Channa bar Chanina explained the pupose for Moshe’s kever being hidden: if we would daven by Moshe’s kever on our way to galus, the decree may be nullified! (Sota 14a).
Another chazal states that this concealment was due to a fear that we would build the Beis Hamikdosh around that very spot (the incorrect location), and worse, if we were to do so, the Gentile nations would offer inappropriate things there. (Pisikta Zutrasa).
However, perhaps the most repeated reasoning is the fear that we would turn such a site into a shrine and, chalila, daven to Moshe, R’l. (See Ralbag, Rav Hirsch, inter alia.
Chazal share that this was also one of concerns of Yaakov, and why he didn’t wish to be buried in Mitzraim, as the mitzrim may turn his kever into a reliquary for idolatry (see Rashi to Bereishis 47:29).
What does this have to do with teves/shevat?
The Tur and Shulchan Aruch list more than twenty (!) fast dates throughout the year where it is ‘worthy’ to fast, some that even fall on rosh chodesh (siman 580). Here are some that relate to this time of year:
“On the eighth of teves the Torah was translated to Greek during the days of King Ptolemy, causing darkness to enter the world for three days; On the ninth of teves, we do not know what trouble transpired; On the fifth of shevat the zekeinim from the days of Yehoshua died; On the twenty-third of shevatall of bnei yisroel gathered against shevet Binyamin on account of Gibah…”
Among these dates are the 8th and the 9th of Teves.
After reading these halachos, one would naturally have the follwing two questions:
1- Why don’t we fast on these dates anymore?
Were they ever observed?
2- How do we understand the follwing cryptic comment of Shulchan Aruch when referring to the 9th of Teves: ‘[W]e don’t know what transpired’?
How could we have a taanis and not know what it is commemorating?
Is its reasoning/history found anywhere?
As to our first question, when the Tur mentions these dates, the Beis Yosef comments that he “[H]as never heard of anyone who fasts on any of these dates, and indeed we may wonder regarding whoever established these, how could he have allowed for a few of them to fall on rosh chodesh?”
So, although he too would later codify these fasts, there is ample support for the vast majority of yidden who do not fast on nay of these dates (see also Mishneh Berrura).
In fact, in our day, many poskim would advise one not fast on these dates, as we are weaker, and fasting could lead to a weakening of teffilah, learning, and even middos.
As for our second question, we must begin with the source for these fasts. The two main sources come from the geonic era, Halachos Gedolos and the 13th century Kol Bo -both authoritative sefarim, yet both written by uncertain authors.
The Tur’s language regarding the mysterious 9th of teves is a little more telling: ‘The chachamim did not inform us…” alluding to a deeper secret that is known but not shared. Indeed, the original manuscript of Megilas Taanis (not the one in common use today) uses similar language.
Many posit that this date was chosen as a fast since it is also the yartzeit of Ezra (Magen Avraham).
But if so, why would it be a hidden?
Some explain that we hide this based on the very same fear with which we opened: precisely because that Ezra greatness to our Torah history is almost unmatched -as he revivified the Torah in his day – revealing too much about his demise would negate the concern of yiddeshlkeit becoming a ‘cult of personality’, chalilah; about a person rather than the Riboneh Shel Olam (see Yaaros Devash, 2:12)!
Some additions of the original source explicitly mention the death of Ezra,…as well as another yartzeit: Nechemia.
To this, we could propose another reason for its hidden nature.
Sefer Nechemia is not mentioned in among the twenty-four sifrei tanach listing found in chazal (Bava Basra 14b-15). In fact, the gemara (Sukkah 37a) mentions a pasuk in sefer Nechemia as being from sefer Ezra (Nechemia 8:15)!!
As the Yad Yosef (to Ein Yaakov, Sanhedrin 93b) explains, in the days of the gemara both Ezra and Nechemia were contained in one sefer called, simply, ‘Ezra’.
The gemara (Sanhadrin 93b) outright asks why Nechemia was not zoche to have the (second half of the) book named after him, explaining that this was a punishment for a certain event.
Like sifreiShmuel, Melachim and Divrei Hayamim, it was the Christians who divided Ezra into two, logiclly (without our mesorah) naming the latter half ‘Nechemia‘.
Rav Reuvien Margilios (Margolios Hayam) quotes the Chida as explaining that chazal did not mean that Nechemia’s punishment to be indefinite, and certainly at a certain point in history he would become absolved. This is why Hashem, at a certain point in our history, allowed the division of ‘Ezra’ into two books and for the latter to be called ‘Nechemia’. (See my feature available on this site titled ‘Chapter and Verse’, from Ami Magazine, Shavous, 5774 where the story behind the 24 sefarim, as well the ‘chapters’ are discussed in great detail).
Based on this, we can perhaps suggest that, at least initially, just as Nechemia’s seferwas ‘hidden’ so was his yartzeit.
There are additional reasons given for this secretive date, more information about this version of Megillas Taanis, and the further details regarding the other fast dates mentioned in the Shulchan Aruch.